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Bronks  7/01/08 7:33:46 PM

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Originally posted by Ender4

AoC claimed 550K purchases on release day, they now have 700K.  That means over the last month they only sold 150K boxes. 3 Months from now at that rate they are looking at 1.15M copies sold.(not active accounts but accounts sold)   That is also in a market that has grown by about an order of 10 since WoW came out.

 

Nice try though.

3 months from now (at the rate with which players are leaving AoC), they are looking at giving away a free month of play to their 'veterans' to come back and see all the gameplay enhancements they have made since the beta/retail release.

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Lateris  7/01/08 7:36:46 PM

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I am enjoying AoC and taking my time to level. But honestly the bugs are there in game as well as the content that is not. I like this game but Funcom needs to get the gears going which I feel they are doing. Besides WoW will be a very large game for some time to come. They are adding Russia. In the scheme of things I honestly could care less about WoW. I really can't agree with the OP.

 

 

 
Bronks  7/01/08 7:41:33 PM

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Originally posted by Douhk

I consider WoW a completely different genre because it basically holds an equal amount of players compared to every other MMO out there combined. But us of this "MMO" community compared to the "WoW" community are getting tired of it. It's a great game but we all have different tastes. If we consider WoW in this community (which it technically is) than I'd say it's definitely still king and will remain king... AoC as is is nowhere near comparable. WoW is the king of it's own genre, though. Like I said, many of us are sick of it, the other half of MMO gamers not subscribed to WoW.


Don't forget though that 4/5 of the worldwide WoW player base are Asian gold farmers which leaves only 2 million subscribers for all other continents that are non-Asia.

Break it down into those numbers and WoW isn't so impressive. Remember the next time you're looking to buy something in the AH and see it for 5x what it should sell for you can thank the 8 million Asian gold farmers that brought your <insert gear> auction price up through the roof.

Once players stop buying gold for real dollars and the Asian gold farmers have all their fancy gold selling websites shut down you will see WoW's player base drop.

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templarga  7/01/08 7:49:55 PM

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Originally posted by Bronks
Originally posted by Douhk

I consider WoW a completely different genre because it basically holds an equal amount of players compared to every other MMO out there combined. But us of this "MMO" community compared to the "WoW" community are getting tired of it. It's a great game but we all have different tastes. If we consider WoW in this community (which it technically is) than I'd say it's definitely still king and will remain king... AoC as is is nowhere near comparable. WoW is the king of it's own genre, though. Like I said, many of us are sick of it, the other half of MMO gamers not subscribed to WoW.


Don't forget though that 4/5 of the worldwide WoW player base are Asian gold farmers which leaves only 2 million subscribers for all other continents that are non-Asia.

Break it down into those numbers and WoW isn't so impressive. Remember the next time you're looking to buy something in the AH and see it for 5x what it should sell for you can thank the 8 million Asian gold farmers that brought your <insert gear> auction price up through the roof.

Once players stop buying gold for real dollars and the Asian gold farmers have all their fancy gold selling websites shut down you will see WoW's player base drop.

Thats funny and told made up. 4/5ths? I hope you are being sarcastic. That means 4 out of 5 players are gold farmers? Really?

If that was the case, then how come I have not seen a gold farmer or spammer for the last few days on my server? And when I left Age of Conan, I was getting 10-20 messages a day left off-line by gold spammers. Offline messages will be so badly abused by gold farmers in Age of Conan it won't even be funny.

I can see it now: create account, spam everyone with offline gold farmer messages, delete account. It will be very hard for devs to track down. Oh well, just another example of the broken systems that permeate Age of Conan for the time being. I hope things get better and only time will tell. I wish AOC and its players the best of luck but the reason I left AOC is because its broken gaming systems reminded me of the greatest, most hyped game to date that turrned into a nightmare of broken systems and gameplay. I won't name it but, like the dev company that released it, both had 3 letters in their name.

 
Wolfenpride  7/01/08 7:50:53 PM

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WoW is by far still "the king" as far as mmo's go.

Its sad to admit, but true. AoC is not even close to a "WoW killer"

 
Douhk  7/01/08 7:55:49 PM

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Originally posted by Bronks
Originally posted by Douhk

I consider WoW a completely different genre because it basically holds an equal amount of players compared to every other MMO out there combined. But us of this "MMO" community compared to the "WoW" community are getting tired of it. It's a great game but we all have different tastes. If we consider WoW in this community (which it technically is) than I'd say it's definitely still king and will remain king... AoC as is is nowhere near comparable. WoW is the king of it's own genre, though. Like I said, many of us are sick of it, the other half of MMO gamers not subscribed to WoW.


Don't forget though that 4/5 of the worldwide WoW player base are Asian gold farmers which leaves only 2 million subscribers for all other continents that are non-Asia.

Break it down into those numbers and WoW isn't so impressive. Remember the next time you're looking to buy something in the AH and see it for 5x what it should sell for you can thank the 8 million Asian gold farmers that brought your <insert gear> auction price up through the roof.

Once players stop buying gold for real dollars and the Asian gold farmers have all their fancy gold selling websites shut down you will see WoW's player base drop.


 

Although a great deal of WoW players are gold farmers they certainly don't make 4/5th's of WoW's population. Probably not even 1/5th... though they do make a good number, nowhere near as much as you exaggerate it to be.

I thought similarly as well, but I learned that 10 million is pretty much accurate when it comes to people actually playing.... probably around somewhere from 8 to 9 are actually playing if I were to guess.

 
Bronks  7/01/08 7:57:42 PM

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Originally posted by templarga
Originally posted by Bronks
Originally posted by Douhk

I consider WoW a completely different genre because it basically holds an equal amount of players compared to every other MMO out there combined. But us of this "MMO" community compared to the "WoW" community are getting tired of it. It's a great game but we all have different tastes. If we consider WoW in this community (which it technically is) than I'd say it's definitely still king and will remain king... AoC as is is nowhere near comparable. WoW is the king of it's own genre, though. Like I said, many of us are sick of it, the other half of MMO gamers not subscribed to WoW.


Don't forget though that 4/5 of the worldwide WoW player base are Asian gold farmers which leaves only 2 million subscribers for all other continents that are non-Asia.

Break it down into those numbers and WoW isn't so impressive. Remember the next time you're looking to buy something in the AH and see it for 5x what it should sell for you can thank the 8 million Asian gold farmers that brought your <insert gear> auction price up through the roof.

Once players stop buying gold for real dollars and the Asian gold farmers have all their fancy gold selling websites shut down you will see WoW's player base drop.

Thats funny and told made up. 4/5ths? I hope you are being sarcastic. That means 4 out of 5 players are gold farmers? Really?

If that was the case, then how come I have not seen a gold farmer or spammer for the last few days on my server? And when I left Age of Conan, I was getting 10-20 messages a day left off-line by gold spammers. Offline messages will be so badly abused by gold farmers in Age of Conan it won't even be funny.

I can see it now: create account, spam everyone with offline gold farmer messages, delete account. It will be very hard for devs to track down. Oh well, just another example of the broken systems that permeate Age of Conan for the time being. I hope things get better and only time will tell. I wish AOC and its players the best of luck but the reason I left AOC is because its broken gaming systems reminded me of the greatest, most hyped game to date that turrned into a nightmare of broken systems and gameplay. I won't name it but, like the dev company that released it, both had 3 letters in their name.

Sorry, my numbers were a little off...

www.mmogchart.com/Chart11.html gives the most accurate release info based on Blizzard's press release regarding topping 10 million subs.

1/5 North America

1/5 EU

3/5 Asian

 

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darwa  7/01/08 8:00:14 PM

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Originally posted by Bronks

www.mmogchart.com/Chart11.html gives the most accurate release info based on Blizzard's press release regarding topping 10 million subs.

1/5 North America

1/5 EU

3/5 Asian

 

 

Don't put any faith at all in Bruces imaginary numbers.

Wharg0ul  7/01/08 8:00:37 PM