Darkfall

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

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Originally posted by neonwire

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Originally posted by LordRelic

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Originally posted by SignusM

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Originally posted by LordRelic

 

It wont, its an open world pvp. just like lineage 2 (apart from the combat system)  This entire game will consist of ganking lowbies thats all you ever get out of any game with open world pvp. nothing new nothing special.

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Wow, thats an uneducated statement. Ultima Online, the first large MMO, and to this date, one of the most realistic and immersive worlds ever created was FFA PvP. Besides, you can't gank "lowbies" in a game that isn't level based.
No one knows its going to be good. They have fans because the idea is one that has been missing from the MMO market since 1999. People are desperate for an immersive free world again, and are hoping the features in Darkfall make it to launch. If they do, then this game will truly be something special.

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Then wtf is the point of playing  "hey i just made my first character and look im already leet and can beat anyone yay" stupid stuff.  Your point is ignorant, ganking lowbies can be anything ie a toon thats not as  developed a toon that is low lvl, a toon that has not been in the world as long as the kid who is on summer vacation and plays 24 hours a day.  My point is justified   and as for  UO being what you say it is I call BS!!!
thats like saying mario for the nintendo is the most complicated game ever... i dont dought that it is fun for some, but to make a statment like that is just fubar

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LordRelic.....you dont get it do you. The game doesnt have levels but you do have skills that improve as you use them. No-one will know anything about your character apart from what they can actually see on your Avatar as those skills are not on display for others to see. How are you supposed to gank the less well developed characters when you have no way of knowing anything about them?
 
So your point is not justified at all. Go and read about the ideas in the game before posting useless uninformed nonsense on this thread.

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You don't need character levels to figure out what player is what. Starting zones for one or specific areas where new players will be. This only follows ganking, but other wise you would be correct. It will make it harder but not impossible, probably will be able to distinguished between the gear as well. There will be ways, always is.

Yeah that is indeed a fair point. I suppose gangs of skilled players could hang around starting areas and wait for new players to arrive. The problem with that is that we dont know anything about how Darkfall will handle that yet. What if there are no specific starting areas? Players might be able to start from a large variety of different places. What if starting areas are protected by guards (which I'm sure they will be)? You are also forgetting that an alignment system is being implemented so players that continually ruin other players fun will be hated by all the "civil" npcs in the game. Its gonna be pretty hard to harrass new players when the gankers cant even get near the starting areas due to armies of npcs wanting to kill them on sight.

Basicly from the looks of it Darkfall will make it so difficult and boring to be a dedicated ganker that they will either (1) give up and play the game properly which would actually be more fun and involving or (2) go and gank people in some other more mainstream and less intelligent game.

Also dont forget that every time a ganker picks on a player they are running the risk of attacking someone who is in fact NOT a beginning character at all. Whats to stop a more advanced player from simply disguising themselves as a "noob", logging out at a known starting area and then logging back in therefore making it look like they are a new player? The ganker may very well get their arses handed to them on a plate and have all of their fine quality equipment taken from them as punishment. On top of that, the ganker would be classed as a criminal so the "victim" might even get a reward for slaying the scum. Oh what a joyful feeling that would be :)

Like others, I await the release of DF because of the promise it brings.  Do I have doubts about Aventurine's ability to deliver? Yes, most definitely.  But maybe, just maybe they'll pull it off and if so, I'll be there playing.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Like others, I await the release of DF because of the promise it brings.  Do I have doubts about Aventurine's ability to deliver? Yes, most definitely.  But maybe, just maybe they'll pull it off and if so, I'll be there playing.

Absolutely. I totally agree. I dont have much faith in the company either (I'm a pessimist) but then again I dont know anything about them so how could I possibly judge them? The people involved in making it might be brilliant for all I know.......and even if they fail then someone else will take their place sooner or later. MMOs have to evolve. Its inevitable. The naysayers will be crushed underfoot :)

Originally posted by AveBethos

The feature list and the combat.  That is enough to make this game head and shoulders better than the rest, IF it ever releases.

Heh, this post makes my head itch... Lol jk, but I agree though +1

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by LordRelic

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by LordRelic

It wont, its an open world pvp. just like lineage 2 (apart from the combat system)  This entire game will consist of ganking lowbies thats all you ever get out of any game with open world pvp. nothing new nothing special.

 

Wow, thats an uneducated statement. Ultima Online, the first large MMO, and to this date, one of the most realistic and immersive worlds ever created was FFA PvP. Besides, you can't gank "lowbies" in a game that isn't level based.

No one knows its going to be good. They have fans because the idea is one that has been missing from the MMO market since 1999. People are desperate for an immersive free world again, and are hoping the features in Darkfall make it to launch. If they do, then this game will truly be something special.

 

Then wtf is the point of playing  "hey i just made my first character and look im already leet and can beat anyone yay" stupid stuff.  Your point is ignorant, ganking lowbies can be anything ie a toon thats not as  developed a toon that is low lvl, a toon that has not been in the world as long as the kid who is on summer vacation and plays 24 hours a day.  My point is justified   and as for  UO being what you say it is I call BS!!!

thats like saying mario for the nintendo is the most complicated game ever... i dont dought that it is fun for some, but to make a statment like that is just fubar

LordRelic.....you dont get it do you. The game doesnt have levels but you do have skills that improve as you use them. No-one will know anything about your character apart from what they can actually see on your Avatar as those skills are not on display for others to see. How are you supposed to gank the less well developed characters when you have no way of knowing anything about them?
 

So your point is not justified at all. Go and read about the ideas in the game before posting useless uninformed nonsense on this thread.

OK dude are you trying to tell me a toon just made is going to look the same as a toon thats lvl 40 or 50 or 300 i dont care.  THERE WILL BE GANKING.   IM sure it will be easy as hell to tell who is a more undeveloped toon just by what there wearing. Dont try to tell me im not justified because i am 100%. How the hell will you know what the game will be or how it will play have you played it???? oh wait noone has so stfu.

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by LordRelic

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by LordRelic

It wont, its an open world pvp. just like lineage 2 (apart from the combat system)  This entire game will consist of ganking lowbies thats all you ever get out of any game with open world pvp. nothing new nothing special.

 

Wow, thats an uneducated statement. Ultima Online, the first large MMO, and to this date, one of the most realistic and immersive worlds ever created was FFA PvP. Besides, you can't gank "lowbies" in a game that isn't level based.

No one knows its going to be good. They have fans because the idea is one that has been missing from the MMO market since 1999. People are desperate for an immersive free world again, and are hoping the features in Darkfall make it to launch. If they do, then this game will truly be something special.

 

Then wtf is the point of playing  "hey i just made my first character and look im already leet and can beat anyone yay" stupid stuff.  Your point is ignorant, ganking lowbies can be anything ie a toon thats not as  developed a toon that is low lvl, a toon that has not been in the world as long as the kid who is on summer vacation and plays 24 hours a day.  My point is justified   and as for  UO being what you say it is I call BS!!!

thats like saying mario for the nintendo is the most complicated game ever... i dont dought that it is fun for some, but to make a statment like that is just fubar

LordRelic.....you dont get it do you. The game doesnt have levels but you do have skills that improve as you use them. No-one will know anything about your character apart from what they can actually see on your Avatar as those skills are not on display for others to see. How are you supposed to gank the less well developed characters when you have no way of knowing anything about them?
 

So your point is not justified at all. Go and read about the ideas in the game before posting useless uninformed nonsense on this thread.

You will most likely have skills to reveal some specific stats on the opposing character.

Also, heard about gank squads?

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Originally posted by neonwire
Yeah that is indeed a fair point. I suppose gangs of skilled players could hang around starting areas and wait for new players to arrive. The problem with that is that we dont know anything about how Darkfall will handle that yet. What if there are no specific starting areas? Players might be able to start from a large variety of different places. What if starting areas are protected by guards (which I'm sure they will be)? You are also forgetting that an alignment system is being implemented so players that continually ruin other players fun will be hated by all the "civil" npcs in the game. Its gonna be pretty hard to harrass new players when the gankers cant even get near the starting areas due to armies of npcs wanting to kill them on sight.
Basicly from the looks of it Darkfall will make it so difficult and boring to be a dedicated ganker that they will either (1) give up and play the game properly which would actually be more fun and involving or (2) go and gank people in some other more mainstream and less intelligent game.
Also dont forget that every time a ganker picks on a player they are running the risk of attacking someone who is in fact NOT a beginning character at all. Whats to stop a more advanced player from simply disguising themselves as a "noob", logging out at a known starting area and then logging back in therefore making it look like they are a new player? The ganker may very well get their arses handed to them on a plate and have all of their fine quality equipment taken from them as punishment. On top of that, the ganker would be classed as a criminal so the "victim" might even get a reward for slaying the scum. Oh what a joyful feeling that would be :)

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No argument here, good points as well. We'll have to see if and that is a big IF (see big if lol) Darkfall sees the light of day.

Originally posted by LordRelic

Originally posted by neonwire

Originally posted by LordRelic

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by LordRelic