Sony don't care.. they did this to win the bluray war vs. hd-dvd. Now they will start to reap the real profits on bluray film sale.

Great Thread Jestor!!!

Interesting too.

Not sure about many people, but if you live here in the US, you are feeling great pain at the pump, at the grocery store,  from you health insurance company, Everyone is feeling it due to ression and $150ish oil

Back to subject. Can my tax stimulas check get me a PS3 with controllers and games....Nope

Can it get me a Xbox 360, possible but to get everything, not probabal

Can it get me a Wii? nope can't find any

Can it build me a sweet rig for WAR......yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is a pretty hefty loss there - I wonder what that means for the future of Sony consoles.  Apparently they aren't looking to replace the PS3 for at least a decade and hope to outshine the XBOX 360 over that period somehow.

Personally, I'll stick to PC's.  Anything less is just that

Originally posted by Hrica

Great Thread Jestor!!!

Interesting too.

Not sure about many people, but if you live here in the US, you are feeling great at the pump, at the grocery store,  from you health insurance company, Everyone is feeling it due to ression and $150ish oil

Back to subject. Can my tax stimulas check get me a PS3 with controllers and games....Nope

Can it get me a Xbox 360, possible but to get everything, not probabal

Can it get me a Wii? nope can't find any

Can it build me a sweet rig for WAR......yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   Thanks Hrica, building your own rig for Warhammer online is a great move. 

 Now SOE is still producing Dual Platform -  both PC and PS3  but as I and most know is that the Agency will not cross platform but that would be great if they did because then you could talk smack or communicate with your team on the PC and the PS3 players would just be there pissed off and pushing buttons.

If you knew anything about consoles you would know they usually lose money on the systems. The headsets, HDD, and all the other accessories you all buy is what makes them their money, and the games.

Originally posted by Flyte27

I can definately see consoles dieing at some point.  If a console starts to cost as much as a PC to make who would buy one when they can just go and get a PC for the same price and it does a lot more for you then just play games?

Exclusives. Also, there is some satisfaction in popping a disc into the drive and being able to play the game without any installation, activation, and registration.

Originally posted by gillvane1

Add an Xbox controller to the PC, and a Wii controller.

Get rid of the licensing requirements that consoles have, and let developers make any game they want for the PC, with mouse and keyboard, Xbox controller, or Wii Controller, but you don't have to pay any fees to Microsoft or Nintendo or Playstation to sell your game.

That's where it should go.

Without licensing fees, console manufacturers would have no choice but to charge much more for their equipment, since they wouldn't be able to make up for losses through software.

This may end up sinking Sony in the Console Market.  Microsoft can afford to lose billions on their gaming console unit.  Sony can't.

Microsoft has a market value of about 253 billion dollars and a profit of 16 billion this past year.  Sony has a market value of about 48 billion dollars and a profit of 1 billion this past year.  (That is for the entire Sony company, all of the divisions not just games)

Not only that but I remember when Microsoft entered the gaming console marketplace they were sitting on around 40 billion in cash reserves and wanted to win badly. 

My guess is that gaming will move back to PCs as the primary source.  And instead of manufacturer specific hardware we will see developers making games that will run on lower end "Gaming PCs".  Heck out of this we might even get a PC game friendly operating system. 

BLU-RAY won, and that's all that matters. Don't you guys get it?

if final fantasy comes out just for PS3 watch as the sales go up coz thats the only time i would get it as they wont make them for pc

If you build a $2000 PC to run Age of Conan, you're just an idiot.

I'm on a $600 PC and games look nicer than any console.

Don't forget that consoles don't come with TV.

Originally posted by lordaltay1

If you build a $2000 PC to run Age of Conan, you're just an idiot.

 

I'm on a $600 PC and games look nicer than any console.

 

Don't forget that consoles don't come with TV.

 

QTF.

Originally posted by lordaltay1

Don't forget that consoles don't come with TV.

Most PCs don't usually come with monitors. You just end up paying more for those that do.

I am not a Sony Fanboy but, On their behalf the playstation 3 is a superior gaming console just in its specs alone. I have seen alot of games side by side xbox 360 vs. ps3 and for the most part the ps3 looks better graphically and it seems to play smoother than xbox. They may be losing money now ,but it will pay off in the long run. Games just get better and better as developers get more and more familiar with the systems they make games for it will be interesting to see some of the games that come out for it in the next couple of years. Sony made a Big Mistake in thinking that people would just fork over almost 600 bucks for a game system,that was their error in judgement. Xbox 360 has more games out for it which gives it the edge,but with all the system failures alot of gamers are not happy with microsoft either. If I ever can get of my PC log enough to play a console I would consider a ps3 just for the fact I believe its a better system spec wise. Cell Processor is and awesome technology just look what was powering the new world record Computer.

PS3 is junk... Seriously, no one cares about seeing everything detailed down to the nose hairs. I don't wanna spend $600+ for 1 or 2 good titles i'll end up beating in a day.

IMO it's all about the XBOX360 and Wii.

Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that this is how consoles work. They usually don't make money of the console but the software sales makes up for the loss of the console.

M$ and Sony both work off a different model then Nintendo.   Nintendo never sells their hardware for a loss.   Nintendo has also been in the console business for close to 30 years.  Surprisingly even with the massive install base the PS2 had, they didn't make that much more then Nintendo off their game division during the same time frame.

Originally posted by Jrod

Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that this is how consoles work. They usually don't make money of the console but the software sales makes up for the loss of the console.

You're wrong. Sony isn't the only company that makes titles for the PS3... Take Sega of instanced. Also how can they make up for it... If they can't even sell consoles.

Originally posted by Rogue420

Originally posted by Jrod

Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that this is how consoles work. They usually don't make money of the console but the software sales makes up for the loss of the console.

 

You're wrong. Sony isn't the only company who makes titles for the PS3... Take Sega of instanced. Also how can they make up for it... If they can't even sell consoles.

True, they aren't the only company to make games for the PS3, but they charge the other companies to put a game on the PS3.

Originally posted by Jrod

Originally posted by Rogue420

Originally posted by Jrod

Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that this is how consoles work. They usually don't make money of the console but the software sales makes up for the loss of the console.

 

You're wrong. Sony isn't the only company who makes titles for the PS3... Take Sega of instanced. Also how can they make up for it... If they can't even sell consoles.

 

True, they aren't the only company to make games for the PS3, but they charge the other companies to put a game on the PS3.

Also gotta take into account how many people sell/buy used games.

Originally posted by Rogue420

Originally posted by Jrod

Originally posted by Rogue420

Originally posted by Jrod

Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure that this is how consoles work. They usually don't make money of the console but the software sales makes up for the loss of the console.

 

You're wrong. Sony isn't the only company who makes titles for the PS3... Take Sega of instanced. Also how can they make up for it... If they can't even sell consoles.

 

True, they aren't the only company to make games for the PS3, but they charge the other companies to put a game on the PS3.

 

Also gotta take into account how many people sell/buy used games.

Let's take Resistance's sales which has been 2.5 million. Now lets take that times 60$ per game, That is 150 million. Now lets say Sony gets 5% of Naughty Dog's sales you get 7 million and 500 thousand.

Now there are much more games than just Resistance so you can see how much they might end up making.