Age of Conan

Originally posted by altairzq

This is what happens when a game is hyped a bit too much.

The real responsibility falls on the shoulders of the players.  If we didn't buy into the hype to begin with, it would be a lot harder for us to be let down. 

However, if by hype you mean "promised features" or features that are even listed on the game box which do not exist or are not working.  Well, then it's not our fault.  It's the developers and producers of the game.  Now-a-days I take a wait and see approach to MMORPG's.  Those early days of "got to be there at launch" are over.  I'm going to let AoC cook for 6 months before I partake.  And even then I will do a Free Trial first before I buy. 

Originally posted by Reborn17

The hate is inversely proportional to the hype especially for almost $100 a pop. The ultra high expectations the marketing mavens at Funcom created pre-release turn to  venomous hatred when you realize you have been lied to.

no people created an illusion by themselves of a perfect game.. I followed up on the stuff FC announced and they didn't actually lie to people. Yeah they promise to deliver a lot of things which was broken or didn't work properly.. I don't remember them saying they will release a top bug free game without any problems... people are mostly themself to blame if they really thought that this is going to be problem free or without any bugs.

You lied to yourself when people know from past releases of any games that things is not what you expect. and all games is delivered with broken stuff or bugged.

But I mean if it makes you feel better to tell yourself they lied because it wasn't up to your expectations I recon it works for you.

If people had some kinda of brain capacity no offense you should be better than just to go off buy a game expecting it to be whatever you expect of it.

But some people have hard time learning from earlier releases of games.

Do a survey 1st.. and if you haven't been admitted to beta testing of a certain game you should wait until there is a trial for the game so you can try it out.

And this goes for everyone always be critic to any games it might not be what you think or hope it to be.

Funcom have stated several times that they were after WoW's customers.

AoC is ment to be the WoW for the Xbox 360. Nothing else. And I belive they will have quite a financial success with the console version. I also belive that the PC subs will be down to about 100k-150k by then.

I think there are two major reasons why AOC has so high hate factor.

1)  Closed beta did not go out of NDA before launch.   Closed beta players knew the state of the game.  THey knew what Funcom were putting out and how it would be.  Some maybe were hoping for a Miracle patch - but most knew there was none.  Most closed beta testers were just happy they were actually able to play for more than 10 mins without crashing week before launch.    Funcom failed the loyal ppl - Just like LOTRO failed a chunck of the LOTR fans - when they had payed for lifetime account.  Simply not good.

2)  Reaction from FUncom when ppl are saying what they really feel.  Why are ppl quitting ?  Why are those posts deleted ?  And why you think ppl react badly when they see such a respond from the company that they just payed 50 bucks to, actually beleving that the features and the content that is said to be on the box really is there ?   OFC ppl get pissed.   And they will not forget such things any time soon. 

It sounds like all are fine with a company falsly advertising things that they then can't deliver - and when the costumers dare to point that out  - then they are banned from the forums.  And you think those ppl are getting answered if they are writing emails to Funcom ?  Seriously ?   Lets look on the general service of the game and we all can take an educated guess....

To many  - Funcom is just laughing at ppl for beeing fooled into buying their game.  Their lack  of responds and ignorance are an insult to every single costumer. 

Thats usually more than enough to light a fire that wont die so easily.  And then there is not much else to do for those ppl that had planned to play AOC for next months other than bitch and complain repeatedly about how bad the game was and how they were treated by Funcom.  Thats just perfectly normal if you ask me. 

Originally posted by funnylumpy

Originally posted by Reborn17

The hate is inversely proportional to the hype especially for almost $100 a pop. The ultra high expectations the marketing mavens at Funcom created pre-release turn to  venomous hatred when you realize you have been lied to.

 

no people created an illusion by themselves of a perfect game.. I followed up on the stuff FC announced and they didn't actually lie to people. Yeah they promise to deliver a lot of things which was broken or didn't work properly.. I don't remember them saying they will release a top bug free game without any problems... people are mostly themself to blame if they really thought that this is going to be problem free or without any bugs.

You lied to yourself when people know from past releases of any games that things is not what you expect. and all games is delivered with broken stuff or bugged.

But I mean if it makes you feel better to tell yourself they lied because it wasn't up to your expectations I recon it works for you.

If people had some kinda of brain capacity no offense you should be better than just to go off buy a game expecting it to be whatever you expect of it.

But some people have hard time learning from earlier releases of games.

Do a survey 1st.. and if you haven't been admitted to beta testing of a certain game you should wait until there is a trial for the game so you can try it out.

And this goes for everyone always be critic to any games it might not be what you think or hope it to be.

 

 

 

 

 

Come on man.  People spent >$100 upgrading computer in anticipation of AoC having DX10 that is in addition to all the costs of AoC itselft.  No one knew DX10 was out of the build until a day or two before release.  They hyped DX10 as a major selling points for over a YEAR.

I did not buy this game.  I have not spent one red cent on this game.  I did not believe any of their hype.  But even I was astounded to see that DX10 was not in the game. 

And anyone who spent extra money to upgrade their computer for these features has every right to be upset and angry.  I personally would have been more cautious.

But to sau that Funcom is in no way responsible or culpable or did nothing wrong.  That is just way past the bounds of reason in my mind.  Those people got screwed.  Plain and simple.  Yes caution would have prevented that getting screwed but that in no way excsues Funcom.  Far from it; its actually more damning.

Originally posted by VultureSkull

Why is that people have such venom against AOC? 

1. They see the potential of AoC but are frustrated by the present condition of the game.

2.  They fell for the hype, are slightly naive and expected an 100% polished game on release?

3. They see it as a threat to their pet favourite game.

4. This is one of the first major releases this year and there were a lot of people expecting a lot of things from AoC, a lot of them came from WoW and expected similar levels of polish and content and were disappointed when it was not there.

 I truly believe that the mature MMO player who has been involved in many games and knows the market, is or does not get frustrated so easily.

I have not really seen this much hate towards other games, only towards SOE.

I can't speak for everybody as you are attempting to do, but I'll tell you why I have so much venom against AoC.

1.  Partially correct, AoC did have potential, but I'm more frustrated by the fact that this is the 2nd funcom MMO that I've paid to beta test.  Anarchy Online was horrible, lag was huge, couldn't even move around the city, the random dungoens were full of line of site problems, resulting in constant death, etc.  I thought that Funcom would have learned from the AO mistake of releasing a game long before it was ready to be released, but they didn't, they did the exact same thing with AoC.  AoC still needs months of beta testing before its even playable.  I'm frustrated in myself for allowing Funcom to take advantage of my wallet.

2 & 4.  I'm grouping these together since it's all about polish.  WRONG.  I wasn't expecting a super polished game, but I was expecting a game that didn't crash on me so much that some nights I actually spent more time relogging/rebooting than I did playing.  Not everybody has the memory leak problem, but lots of us do, it's horrible.  I zone into Old Tar(whatever), I crash, I zone out of OT, I crash, I talk to more than a couple quest givers, I crash.  I crash for no reason at all.  I blue screen while standing still.  Not to mention all the background crashes, I spent nearly as much time trying fixes, rebuilding my PC with different operating systems (XP, XP64, Vista and Vista 64), as I did actually playing the game.  I'm not talking polish, I'm talking playability....but AoC has neither. 

Then there is the whole issue of completely whacked out class balance.  Rangers that can 2 shot anybody from 20-40, then become one of the weakest classes in the game.  Healers that out nuke the nuker classes, necro, one of the lowest HP classes in the game has the worst DPS.  Rogues, which don't have nearly enough survivability to make up for their lackluster DPS.  Tanks, yes the most defensive class in the game, running around one shotting any non-tank class, mounted combat that doesn't work, seiges which weren't possible because there was a bug with some building type, every class has a HUGE list of bugs...bugs discovered and documented by PLAYERS not staff.  Then there is a complete lack of content between 50 & 80, forcing people to grind levels because there isn't anything else to do.  My god man, you think this is a lack of polish?  This game wasn't even half way complete when it was released, and the half that was there at release was bugged in some way.

3.  My favorite game at the moment is a single player game so there is no compettion, but yeah, I bet there are a lot of AoC haters that are just hating on AoC because it's no their favorite game.  Those people need to chill out because anybody who knows anythying about MMOs isn't going to stick around AoC for very much longer.  My entire guild went back to Vanguard, and if you know anything about Vanguard you know what a bold statment that is.  My other on-line freinds have either gone back to WoW or are waiting on something else.

Although they are fixing things left and right, they are introducing new bugs and creating new class balance problems nearly as fast as they are fixing them.  They are introducing a crap PvP system in a game that was advertised as being an open PvP system.  They talk about grand 200+ people battles, when the 40 player battles don't even work right.  They continue to pump out all kinds of hype, but they can't fix even the most basic problems. 

What really cracks me up is all the fanboys who pretend nothing is wrong with the game.  Every AoC forum is full of flames for a reason, they are just too dim to see it.

Anyone seen Amasing Avery lately, im sure he has good reasons why AOC has all these problems. Well he use too.

To answer your question OP, I don't hate Funcom. It would be kind of silly to hate any video game company. But their customer service and lack of communication are absolutely horrible, that was my main reason for quitting. Some people act like AoC killed their puppy though.

And I like posting about AoC here because it was the last MMORPG that I played. And while waiting for others to come out, I like to browse forums while doing some rigging and modeling in Blender. But some people do seem to hate AoC a little too much, dare I say in an unhealthy way. You have to admit though, the forums for AoC here and the official forums are like a train wreck - it's horrible to look at, but you can't turn away.