General Discussion

Is it worth the price to upgrade with or should I wait for HD4870?  Also will the HD4870 run AoC smoothly?  I have heard some bad experiences that computer games have with ATI cards.

Its a $600 price tag for a Graphics card that is on par with the 9800 GX2.  The best advantage it has over the card is in games that support only 1 video card.  However, those will not even fully utilize the card.

On the other hand the HD4850 competes with the GX260 at $200 less.  Its still unknown how well the HD4870 will perform.  On the sheet it looks like it will CRUSH the GX280.  However, so did the HD3870.  It really matters how the card performs in reality and that won't be known until July.  I would wait for it though, if anything prices will drop.

An HD4870 will run AoC smoothly considering an HD3870 can.

I'll finish the thread title for you. GeForce GTX 280 is a waste of money.

ya i would wait for the 4870x2 will be the one to get imo

Originally posted by UltraQuack

I'll finish the thread title for you. GeForce GTX 280 is a waste of money.

Totally agree , wait for the 4870 .

The reviews are out.  The 4870 simply eats the competition.  It competes at the same level are better then the G260, and sometimes performs better then the G280 for half the price.

I'm going to buy a completely new PC with 1/2 4850. Judging from the benchmarks, it's quite a card for its price. And from what I saw on a chinese benchmarking site (I don't speak chinese, made it quite hard to follow), the 4870 performs better than the nvidia card. At 1/3 of the price!

Originally posted by CleffyII

The reviews are out.  The 4870 simply eats the competition.  It competes at the same level are better then the G260, and sometimes performs better then the G280 for half the price.

Where are these reviews?  I haven't seen one legit one for the 4870 one yet.  The only ones I've seen were for the g280 which performed on par or better with both company's dual gpu cards while on beta drivers.

Anandtech  It was released less then 12 hours ago.

Not impressed.  the 4850 they review matches up well against the 9800GTX, but again they aren't even trying to go for high end gaming.  The reliance on crossfire for high end gaming is just plain stupid as dual cards only scale well on certain games.  If the best copetition was the 9800GTX I would say they are doing a good job, but losing around 10 frames fer game to the current generation, lower price on not is going to hurt them, especially since most of the losses are to the g260, not even the really expensive g280.  AMD needed to really knock one out of the park considering how long they have been behind, and while they certainly got a solid hit, it doesn't look like it's good enough.