with the amount of haters who gathered at mmorpg.com i would have expected worse numbers for aoc

but i had a laugh since people see a poll (without random selecting the voters) as proof that aoc=fail :) we will see in a month IF funcom or "insiders" post their numbers..

Originally posted by 3on1

with the amount of haters who gathered at mmorpg.com i would have expected worse numbers for aoc

but i had a laugh since people see a poll (without random selecting the voters) as proof that aoc=fail :) we will see in a month IF funcom or "insiders" post their numbers..

so you obviously think it's a success?

played it for 21 days / from 1-61

a little disapointed, a working crafting system had make a compansation to the grinding part of the game above lvl 60.

a funbug : however , which key I assigned to  action : sit/stand it doesnt work  :)) / to sit on a chair in the tavern ends in relog, cause the char couldnt stand up from the chair using any key  W,S,A.D :))

so far so good, the game isnt bad, but the bugs and not implemented things kills the playfun.

end of it: account canceled before the end of 30 days freeplay

greetings

Originally posted by Lamamoto

 

a funbug : however , which key I assigned to  action : sit/stand it doesnt work  :)) / to sit on a chair in the tavern ends in relog, cause the char couldnt stand up from the chair using any key  W,S,A.D :))

A little irrelevant and off-topic... but typing /stand gets you out of a chair.

It looks intereting, but I've never played it.

with over 800 people voted, the statistical confidence of only 25% subscribing to AoC is pretty high.

I think retaining only 1 in 4 players of a brand new MMO is pretty shockingly bad myself...

I've been gone for a week, but one aspect that I'm interested in this thread is if anyone changed their status after voting.

Has anyone thought they would stay, voted they would continue their subscription, and then ended up cancelling? Why?

Has anyone thought they would leave, never subscribed, or thought they would never subscribe...but for some reason are now playing? Why?

I'm really interested in what changed you over from your last opinion...

Originally posted by dirtknap69

with over 800 people voted, the statistical confidence of only 25% subscribing to AoC is pretty high.

 

I think retaining only 1 in 4 players of a brand new MMO is pretty shockingly bad myself...

Actually you are reading the poll wrong.  It looks like they are retaining around 40% so far based on the poll.  About 28% of the poll response is people that have not subscribed to the game at all.

40% is better then I would have expected, although I think the response would depend a lot on when someone responded relative to when they bought the game.  I think in the first week or two people probably feel pretty positve about the game.  I think it takes 3-4 weeks to reach the point where you decide you would rather cancel.

60% of our guild has cancelled their subs already.  We started with over 300 members.

Originally posted by ethion

Originally posted by dirtknap69

with over 800 people voted, the statistical confidence of only 25% subscribing to AoC is pretty high.

 

I think retaining only 1 in 4 players of a brand new MMO is pretty shockingly bad myself...

Actually you are reading the poll wrong.  It looks like they are retaining around 40% so far based on the poll.  About 28% of the poll response is people that have not subscribed to the game at all.

40% is better then I would have expected, although I think the response would depend a lot on when someone responded relative to when they bought the game.  I think in the first week or two people probably feel pretty positve about the game.  I think it takes 3-4 weeks to reach the point where you decide you would rather cancel.

You're doing the maths wrong ;-) it's 35% retention based on this poll - 1 in 3 who play the game continue to subscribe. I agree about most people taking 3-4 weeks to work out the game is a piece of unfinished sh1t though.

Originally posted by 3on1

with the amount of haters who gathered at mmorpg.com i would have expected worse numbers for aoc

but i had a laugh since people see a poll (without random selecting the voters) as proof that aoc=fail :) we will see in a month IF funcom or "insiders" post their numbers..

I would be highly appreciative if FunCom posts their numbers. As I've stated before, this poll is not a scientific poll. However, it has some representation. It doesn't focus on whether you love it or hate it. It represents your status.

We all know lies occur on the boards. I'm sure some of the voters are not telling the truth or trying to mainpulate data. Still, every now and then, someone writes a comment that you can tell is unbiased. That's when you know your latching onto a true opinion.

So what you can do, is read the poll, check the numbers, trim off the outlyiers (so to speak), and then start sifting through the comments. Remove the h8ter and fanbois. Then start capitalizing on those posters who are clearly writing true experiences. Once you get their information...then you have a more complete story.

For example:

Does anyone dispute the problem with FunCom over customer service? I've read numerous experiences, even in their own forums, that this is s problem.

I canceled, sadly. I tried to like the game, to see a light at the end of the tunnel so to speak, but with each patch the performance of the client went down considerably. I went from the 50 fps when grinding to 20ish consistently; the game became almost unplayable at times, with random lockups and disconnects while zoning. I was on my way to having a second character at 80,  but got tired of the bugs mentioned above. Tired of Necromancers killing me from stealth with no way to fight back because the search skill is horribly broken. Tired of being unable to defend my guildmates when they are attacked by someone of my faction. (Bane server FTL)

Now I just troll their forums, promoting Warhammer, and secretly hoping they fix their game to make it enjoyable for me again.

Originally posted by Hhussk

Originally posted by 3on1

with the amount of haters who gathered at mmorpg.com i would have expected worse numbers for aoc

but i had a laugh since people see a poll (without random selecting the voters) as proof that aoc=fail :) we will see in a month IF funcom or "insiders" post their numbers..

 

I would be highly appreciative if FunCom posts their numbers. As I've stated before, this poll is not a scientific poll. However, it has some representation. It doesn't focus on whether you love it or hate it. It represents your status.

We all know lies occur on the boards. I'm sure some of the voters are not telling the truth or trying to mainpulate data. Still, every now and then, someone writes a comment that you can tell is unbiased. That's when you know your latching onto a true opinion.

So what you can do, is read the poll, check the numbers, trim off the outlyiers (so to speak), and then start sifting through the comments. Remove the h8ter and fanbois. Then start capitalizing on those posters who are clearly writing true experiences. Once you get their information...then you have a more complete story.

For example:

Does anyone dispute the problem with FunCom over customer service? I've read numerous experiences, even in their own forums, that this is s problem.

While this poll isn't scientific and has some flaws it is interesting to note that xfire numbers do kinda mirror it based on people playing the game.  It was at peak something better then 90k hours and now it is down around 35k hours.  So they have retained between 35 - 40 percent of their player usage which likely maps to peak user base vs current user base.  Again not scientific or 100% but it sure is interesting that it closely matches this poll.

I have a 3 monthly sub, since i dont want to go back to WoW, bored out of my skull with it.

And to be honest there is nothing much more out there, EQ2, VG, LOTROL, none of these float my boat as AoC does .

Monthly sub on continuous update. Just nothing else out there as good at the min. AoC is by no means great but only other game that i can get into is eq! and after 7 years i need a break :).

Interesting results so far. Considering forum dwellers - and especially these forums - are the most opinionated (and then generally outspoken hostile) lot for any game, the poll is actually rather positive. :)

Currently playing and will resubscribe.

The game has potential , yes it is unfinished but i can wait , i played cartoons (wow) for too long .

And no i don't use xfire like many other players .

I wonder how many people who voted that they would resub have changed their minds since then.  With so many better options out there, who the heck would pay $15 a month for this crap?

Now, I can see someone who only made it to level 30 in their first month might think that this game is still hot shit...  but you would have to play very little to only make it to level 30 in 1 month.   Anyone who has gotten to level 60+ would know this game sucks balls for a MMO that has a subscription fee. 

Originally posted by Hhussk

I've been gone for a week, but one aspect that I'm interested in this thread is if anyone changed their status after voting.

Has anyone thought they would stay, voted they would continue their subscription, and then ended up cancelling? Why?

Has anyone thought they would leave, never subscribed, or thought they would never subscribe...but for some reason are now playing? Why?

I'm really interested in what changed you over from your last opinion...

Wow! First stock market analysis and now accurate polling data. Are you serious?

This is like standing outside the courthouse entrance line and asking people if they are happy with the governemnt.

SKEWED DATA FTW!

Skewed voting population aside, the last two options create a push-poll and distort the data by ~%30

Betaed the game, didn't care for the design decisions they made ie zones, instances, no death penalty and closed in feeling of linear paths.

Purely personal preference and I wish them all the best.