Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

If AoC isnt ready to be fully enjoyed yet then I dont see why a person couldnt temporarily move to vanguard for the time being.  What I dont understand is why is there 'roid rage coming from cookie cutter pvpers?  yea yea yea pvp can be fun but it doesnt mean to go and get a high n tight hair cut.

Originally posted by Autodidact82

Wow... majority of the AoC fanboys here have shown major ignorance bout VG... Im more lead to believe their getting even worse then WoW  fanboys.... which is pathetic.

 

I'll keep welcoming all the  AoC players quiting and coming to VG

But a lot of people that really knows both games made a lot of realistic afirmations.

I have the impression you are trying to generalize everyone that doesnt agree with you, even people that is able to realize Vanguard´s flaws and qualities and Age of Conan´s flaws and qualities.

The idea of Vanguard is perfect and AoC is crappy is worse than any WoW fanboism...

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Originally posted by ghettobooste

 

Dude, there are so many little secret areas in Vanguard, all kinds of mini dungeons that no one knows about, that you can't find on any spoiler site.  This game is the best game I have ever played in terms "off the beaten path" exploration.  

It seems most people just think  "who cares what is over that invisible wall, the quest giver is over here!" anymore.

My biggest gripe about AoC is how shallow and tiny the game is.  That is where the AoC/VG comparison comes in.  Because Vanguard is everything AoC is not.

It was my experience that those secret little mini dungeons eventually get pointed to by some quest or another.  I found the exploration cheapened when almost every major interest is spelled out as a waypoint on the map.  Hit a new level and new waypoints with information are automatically added.  Get a quest to do something interesting?  Just open the map and travel to the X pre-marked for you by the quest giver.  Hover the mouse over the marks to find out information about it...  Blah.  Same thing in Conan.

I agree with your that is seems most players now just want instant information and ignore anything off the beaten path.  However I don't really want a built in alakhzams/wowhead site built into the games interface.  It really does cheapen the thrill of exploring IMHO.

Lol,

Being an old git it does make me smile at all the.. my games better than yours crap. I'm thinking its the opposite, theres a fantastic selection out there, and to me its nearly all great stuff. Heh.. I played original EQ which some still hanker for... square heads and rats that go ouch! cause they had'nt fixed the sound.But it was something new. Played AoC for awhile, awesome graphis and great action, but am going back to Vanguard for a bit. Beautiful world (respect Keith Parkinson RiP) and no instancing... great community as well... there all good but not enough time ......

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Autodidact82

Wow... majority of the AoC fanboys here have shown major ignorance bout VG... Im more lead to believe their getting even worse then WoW  fanboys.... which is pathetic.

 

I'll keep welcoming all the  AoC players quiting and coming to VG

 

But a lot of people that really knows both games made a lot of realistic afirmations.

I have the impression you are trying to generalize everyone that doesnt agree with you, even people that is able to realize Vanguard´s flaws and qualities and Age of Conan´s flaws and qualities.

The idea of Vanguard is perfect and AoC is crappy is worse than any WoW fanboism...

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God... you made me want to slam my head into a wall real fricken hard. I never said VG is perfect and AoC is crappy. I realize and understand both games flaws and qualities.

But when i said the MAJORITY (not meaning all) of the AoC fanboys, bitching bout stuff in VG, that's not even in the game anymore. Let's me know their still stuck on a year ago. And when someone simply talks bout how he likes VG better then AoC... the vultures are quick to judge and bash VG right away. Which is bad as WoW fanboyism.

I understand Autodidact82, but this topic was posted on AoC forum in a provocative way, if you take this detail and read the OP, you should realize we cant blame the AoC crowd.

VG crowd is bashing AoC too.... well, anyway, Im glad I can play both games.

I dont understand why people complain about AoC as it seems to have become exactly the game it was supposed to be. So why the complains ? A company that has to rely on gore and nudity to advertise their game wont have much content. That was freaking obvious, wasnt it ?

When I was running around in Vanguard, it was just that feeling of freedom and could never go back to a games that use instancing as the main world content. VG and LotRO are the 2 best mmorpgs right now imo. One has a deep story line along with a casual feel, the other is a bare bones knuckle cruncher with very hard content.... in my opinion

Vanguard has very bad combat though. Very bad.  AT leaset AoC has some input ...

Overall I found the only reason I couldn't get myself to continue playing VG was simply the lack of a playerbase for an otherwise amazing game. I wasn't even bothered so much by the bugs in the game at launch to tell you the truth. They were expected, as every MMO has them.

With that said, I recently found copies of VG on Amazon for under $10, and have ordered 4 copies for me and 3 friends to play the game together.