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6/20/08 10:14:00 AM#61
Originally posted by JustBe
Everyone cares about graphics, I mean in a mmorpg where i'm spendign ALOT of time in and developing a character over time, the game has to have nice artistic graphics where I want to go explore and care about my character. WOW did it for me but a shame it doesn't have more customization and EQ2 didn'yt do it for me cause the graphics suck and I didn't care to explore the zoned to fuck world.
I did not much enjoy EQ2 myself. The graphics for ME ere mediocre. The style they went with did not do it for me. I still played it for a month and went from start to "End game" (Into the desert area expansion that came out the time I started the game) but because *I* did not like the look/feel of it, does that mean the game is gonna tank? No. It means I am not playing it. Several others are as they enjoy it. Same will go for WAR. Some will like it, other will not. Some will be so shallow of individuals that te graphics alone will be the failing point for them. (The graphics are NOT bad when you turn up settings either) but to each their own. That is not what will, nor should fail the game however.
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ronan32
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Joined: 8/19/05
I will never play an mmorpg with Microtransactions |
6/20/08 10:18:32 AM#62
Originally posted by SundersGhost
Absolutely! Coz if the WAR community has proven anything at all, it is that they are shallow aesthetically driven kids who put a purty picture above all else. Game will tank on all levels. Maybe they should add some pixel tits too.
just because a person likes creative and innovative graphics does not make them childish. your post however does. because a persons opinion is different to yours that makes them shallow, you must be a very closed minded individual. I am a graphic designer by trade so graphics are important to me. I find it even funnier that pixel tits annoy you. how childish of you. |
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6/20/08 10:23:05 AM#63
Originally posted by ronan32
just because a person likes creative and innovative graphics does not make them childish. your post however does. because a persons opinion is different to yours that makes them shallow, you must be a very closed minded individual. I am a graphic designer by trade so graphics are important to me. I find it even funnier that pixel tits annoy you. how childish of you.
Haha, pixel tits do not annoy me. And graphics matter to me also. As does sarcasm and humor. You failed at reading my post for what it is. Perhaps before you go on a flaming rant you should understand what or who you speak of. Thanks. :) Edit: read my other post. All I was saying is the community of WAR has slightly more depth to it than to fail the game based on the graphics alone, and that it is not really "Fair" to say the game will tank on the aspect of graphics alone. As a "Game designer" you should understand the multiple level of game design and respect that. Again, read the posts for what they are instead of being quick to judge and rant.
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6/20/08 10:31:50 AM#64
Further, I was not calling anyone shallow, definitely not the above poster (JustBe) I was stating the WAR community is not shallow enough to make such a quick assessment. |
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6/20/08 10:37:20 AM#65
Originally posted by Thunder_Head Plenty by fans, never once by a developer. Mythic has said that the beta is locked into a graphical setting that is less than the highest planned, but they have not, to my knowledge, said that it is the lowest. It could be anything from the lowest to the second-highest. Just saying. |
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6/20/08 12:48:23 PM#66
Originally posted by Saerain Plenty by fans, never once by a developer. Mythic has said that the beta is locked into a graphical setting that is less than the highest planned, but they have not, to my knowledge, said that it is the lowest. It could be anything from the lowest to the second-highest. Just saying.
They didnt' say lowest and they didn't say less than planned the said its not all finished we're seeing alot of place holders, un lit areas, sometimes even shaderless. They've also stated there's no graphic's control UI in the beta yet as their testing is purely centered around the gameplay and not graphical testing. By controllign specifically which graphics settings the players have they narrow down the bug search to specific areas instead of having to test every possible area to see if its graphics or game engine problems. Honestly if a game is released with "some" (as in a broken shader or two) broken graphics I could careless..but if the gameplay is broken thats a huge peeve off. Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED! |
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6/20/08 1:00:51 PM#67
Originally posted by SundersGhost Turn up settings? Didn't they say that the beta client has a fixed graphic settings? |
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6/21/08 12:12:10 AM#68
Not only bland out in the open but long loading screens too : www.youtube.com/watch Ms Paint brown ftw |
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6/21/08 12:15:02 AM#69
I think those IGN videos look really good.
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6/21/08 12:17:44 AM#70
Originally posted by altairzq Turn up settings? Didn't they say that the beta client has a fixed graphic settings?
Yeah, on the Beta client they have fixed settings. In booths and other such, like the Games Day conferences an suh, higher settings are available. You may be able to find some videos of it if you can not show up to any of the events.
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6/21/08 10:53:45 AM#71
The graphics are fine, they are in par with games like LOTR. At least you wont need a monster pc to run this game, like AOC. What i want is a fun game, not a crapper like AOC. |
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LouiseK
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Joined: 6/04/07
Im sorry, i cant help it - Im socially retarded. |
6/21/08 11:01:29 AM#72
WAR is like WoW2 - i know loads of people argue that it isn't, but those people clearly haven't played it. I don't mean it to be an insult - it is the reality... I played WoW and i will be playing WAR. It looks like wow, it feels like wow... then it has some extra bits that you would expect of any second coming. Therefore - that translates to the focus not being on the graphics... the focus is on the playability, the user interface, the smooth combat. It will still end up looking smooth with shadows and reflection and partical effects but ultimately... it will look like a cartoon more than it will look like a real world. |
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6/21/08 11:56:58 AM#73
Originally posted by LouiseK
As far as graphics are concerned, yes it is a few notches above WoW. In that regard (graphically), it can be compared to a "WoW 2.0" if such a thing existed. As far as gameplay is concerned, WoW is nothing like WAR. If there was anything that made DAoC stand head and shoulders above other MMOs for the first few years of it's lifespan, it was RvR. And that is something WoW does not, and probably never will have. And it is a HUGE part of the game. In that regard, trying to say (even from a graphics standpoint) that WAR is like WoW 2.0, is unfair, as most people don't make the distinction that it *only* applies to graphics. The two games are, when all is said and done, very different. WAR is waaay ahead of WoW, and doesn't drag you into the "raid raid raid raid until your eyes bleed" thing. RvR is tons more entertaining, and can keep players hooked for years past their PvE caps.
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Lord.Bachus
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Joined: 5/14/07
I beleive in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can. |
6/21/08 1:33:08 PM#74
Originally posted by LouiseK
Don't worry..... Its annimations and atmosphere that create good graphics, not pixel count. Currently i am a super hero in DCUO. |
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6/21/08 5:37:15 PM#75
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
Don't worry..... Its annimations and atmosphere that create good graphics, not pixel count.
And this is exactly what WAR is missing so far. |
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6/21/08 5:38:56 PM#76
Originally posted by altairzqOriginally posted by Lord.Bachus
And this is exactly what WAR is missing so far. Polishing graphics is the easiests last step in MMO development. wait till release.. |
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6/21/08 6:34:26 PM#77
I work in 3d graphics and what you are seeing is screenshots without normal mapping applied. Its fairly trivial to add it to scenes once your ready for it. It does require that lighting be working and in place. So if what some people are saying is true that lighting is not working properly yet in the game then that is why the screenshots look the way they do. Normal mapping can make a 1000 poly object look like a 100,000 poly object, thats one of its great benefits to gaming engines. For those not familiar with it, in the example below the model was close to 1 million polygons, a lot for a game character. But with just the normal maps applied you get the final creature with just under 7K polygons but appearing like the 1 million polygon version. All they have to do to generate these maps is run the geometry through any one of the tens of plugins out there that can generate the maps. So wait till they have done that to judge the graphics.
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6/21/08 6:47:46 PM#78
OH WOW! Look at those screen shots with realistic colors other than the NEON cartoonish colors of WoW. Which is my, and all my real life friends, problem with it. I'm so excited for War, finally I won't have to look at Purple night elves with long floppy ears and neon green orcs. Poo poo on WoW's graphic design team. (And I live Blizzard, I own every game they've made, even Lost Vikings!) Since this is a War thread I'll close with Cheers to you EA Mythic, I love the way you went with it graphically, just the right amount of realistic looking colors and graphic design, but yet not too shiny as to make it unplayable on most machines.
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6/21/08 6:54:21 PM#79
well compared to upcomming games like AION...yes its very ugly :P
but the game is supposed to be brutal and war torn. |
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6/21/08 8:34:48 PM#80
Originally posted by SundersGhost
Yeah, on the Beta client they have fixed settings. In booths and other such, like the Games Day conferences an suh, higher settings are available. You may be able to find some videos of it if you can not show up to any of the events.
Oh ok.. that explains it |
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