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mike470
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Joined: 2/11/08
"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand" - Randy Pausch |
6/20/08 6:37:57 PM#21
Originally posted by ghoul31
Why is that the worst comparison ever? They are 2 very similar games that started development at the same time. Darkfall was supposed to be released in 2003. So it was made to run on a 2003 computer. So yea, you should get 150 FPS with todays computers
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6/20/08 6:38:57 PM#22
Originally posted by DrakEQ2
For starters, DF's engine is much more advanced, you don't compare games built for hardware thats 5-8 years old to games that are STILL in development that will release built to be optimised with current tech. Hence, why the comparison holds no water. If DF was released at the same time as SB you'd have one hell of a good point, but as it wasn't, and considering the monumental rate that technology has advanced since the day SB was a new title, I'd say I am at least partially correct.
They built the game to be released in 2003. So they made it to run on 2003 computers. They are still using the same engine so you should get insane frame rates with todays computers |
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6/20/08 7:22:42 PM#23
Originally posted by ghoul31
They built the game to be released in 2003. So they made it to run on 2003 computers. They are still using the same engine so you should get insane frame rates with todays computers
Ya if they actually updated the engine properly to run properly with the new video card drivers.. Just because they have ancient technology doesn't automatically mean it's going to run great on new video cards and systems. CODING is what matters. It makes no difference if they have shitty graphics. If they're coding is garbage then it won't matter how much power you throw at it. The FPS will still be terrible. Like I said before -- I cannot get anywhere near 150 FPS on my brand new gaming system in a game like World of Warcraft which is very low poly count. Darkfalls graphics look about the same polycounts (only much shittier quality work). So if I can't get that kind of FPS in a Blizzard coded game on a brand new system then there's no fucken way you or anyone else is going to get that in DarkFail. |
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6/20/08 7:47:31 PM#24
Originally posted by ghoul31 I get 150 FPS in Shadowbane. And shadowbane started development around the same time as Darkfall. So it is possible
Horseshit. It's not even remotely possible in Shadowbane with 200 on the field. The servers can't update the client that fast and you rubberband and lag insanely. "Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice." ~Greys Law |
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6/20/08 7:54:35 PM#25
I get 150 FPS in Quake 3 arena with 32 people running around on tiny maps. Not in huge open worlds with 200 people running around and casting spells and god knows what else. This Tasos person is really starting to get on my nerves. He constantly makes these outrageous claims and shows NOTHING. This guy would be an amazing fucken evangelist. He already managed to get a flock of idiots following him. He mentions going to some (unnamed of course) college to give a lecture? LOL Who the fuck would want some start up video game developer who has 0 credibility and has produced absolutely NOTHING to date to speak to anyone? Funny how there's no video of this event taking place right? But then again that shouldn't be surprising considering they can't even open up FRAPS and hit the record button for 30 seconds. complete bullshit. |
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Kyleran
 Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
6/20/08 8:07:25 PM#26
Have to agree...they went over the top with these claims, and yet, showed us the same BS they've been spewing for years. I'll believe it when I see it, and not until then . But hey, less than 6 months to go, right?
"Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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6/21/08 9:07:48 AM#27
Originally posted by Antikythera
LOL. I don't even get that kind of FPS playing World of Warcraft on my Dual core 3.0 gighz 4 gig ram Gaming machine. don't know about wow but i run halo 2 at 300 fps on my cpu but i paid alot :) |
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6/21/08 9:14:46 AM#28
The only way they could get that kind of fps if they were using stick figures on today's average computer. It is the old put up or shut up argument and as usual they can't seem to put up. You would think they would at least hire someone that understands how to do publicity. Aragon, your only joy in life is to anger others, Darkfall is simply the silly medium you use to do it. Most of us don't even bother to read your drivel anymore, there is nothing remotely interesting in it. |
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6/21/08 9:23:47 AM#29
Of course they are getting a million FPS. Rendering a black screen is not that expensive to the hardware! |
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6/21/08 9:28:32 AM#30
Originally posted by Ozmodan called falcon mach 5 with every options just google it like falcon mach 5 gaming fps or halo fps it brings up a list of avg fps. |
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6/21/08 9:29:18 AM#31
I don't have a Falcon mach 5. Does that mean I can't play Darkfalls? I do have super powers like Tasos though! |
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6/21/08 9:31:27 AM#32
Originally posted by Catizone LOL darkfall has low regs so you will be fine i just like to have to latest and best cpu is all. |
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daarco
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Joined: 12/19/06
I have Darkfall now! |
6/21/08 3:07:12 PM#33
Nice, a little status report. But im only interested in release and videos. So i like the video talk. |
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6/21/08 3:35:16 PM#34
if DF is such a great game. why is it so hard to make a video. obviously finding the finished parts of the game is difficult for the camera crew. I know all games release videos of certain parts of the game to raise hype. but when they are nearing release they are not bothered about video-ing the game in all its glory, in game footage. take about 30 mins to fraps some stuff. |
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Isane
Apprentice Member
Joined: 5/24/06
"Some do , Some don''t , Others just cry" Jean Sali |
6/21/08 7:26:30 PM#35
Originally posted by DrakEQ2
For starters, DF's engine is much more advanced, you don't compare games built for hardware thats 5-8 years old to games that are STILL in development that will release built to be optimised with current tech. Hence, why the comparison holds no water. If DF was released at the same time as SB you'd have one hell of a good point, but as it wasn't, and considering the monumental rate that technology has advanced since the day SB was a new title, I'd say I am at least partially correct.
The logic is fine if FPS was acheivable at a comparible rate then with advances the expectation would be that the FPS would be higher. If DF have not made the mistake of over egged graphica above gameplay then the logic of what ghoul posted is fine. To say the comparison hold no water just shows you don't have a an ounce of logic in your bone. My response is based on believing that Ghoul could get 150 FPS in shadowbane... ________________________________________________________ |
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Isane
Apprentice Member
Joined: 5/24/06
"Some do , Some don''t , Others just cry" Jean Sali |
6/21/08 7:32:26 PM#36
Originally posted by mike470
Why is that the worst comparison ever? They are 2 very similar games that started development at the same time. Darkfall was supposed to be released in 2003. So it was made to run on a 2003 computer. So yea, you should get 150 FPS with todays computers
AoC was being developed in 2003.
And based on the lack of Gameplay and over intensive graphics requirements, AOC could never be compared you would never get a comparible FPS. Darkfall = Strategic Game/Complex based on developers description.... AOC = prettyness nothing more very very poor... That said there is only a finite requirement against FPS (150 way exceeds that ), guess no more development required in that area
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mike470
General Correspondent
Joined: 2/11/08
"We cannot change the cards we are dealt, just how we play the hand" - Randy Pausch |
6/21/08 8:08:45 PM#37
Originally posted by Isane
AoC was being developed in 2003.
And based on the lack of Gameplay and over intensive graphics requirements, AOC could never be compared you would never get a comparible FPS. Darkfall = Strategic Game/Complex based on developers description.... AOC = prettyness nothing more very very poor... That said there is only a finite requirement against FPS (150 way exceeds that ), guess no more development required in that area
I agree with you about AOC. But still... Requiem is going for 96v96 battles, now wether or not that is laggy, (or a bad game) it does not take away from the fact that they plan on having those kind of battles. Those graphics are even to/around DF's graphics, yet you don't see them saying they can get 200v200. You see, it's a stretch to even go for 100v100 battles, yet when it comes with 200v200 battels with no lag, 30-60 FPS, and on an average computer, DF somehow seems to have the possibility to do it? You can't say that you somehow don't have doubts. --edited for typos, __________________________________________________ |
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6/21/08 9:48:00 PM#38
Originally posted by ghoul31
They built the game to be released in 2003. So they made it to run on 2003 computers. They are still using the same engine so you should get insane frame rates with todays computers
Look at the current graphics of Shadowbane, and then at the "supposed" screenshots of Darkfall. Now tell me Darkfall would have the same fps as Shadowbane. |
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6/21/08 11:28:37 PM#39
I doubt the fps claims. I have a pretty decent comp, upper mid range. I have my gfx lowered all the way to low and in huge battles in LoTRO (which most would agree is pretty polished) I get 10-20 fps. So while its possible, highly unlikely. |
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6/21/08 11:36:47 PM#40
whatever about the fps on the test machine what happens when 200+ people from around the world log into the battle...what happens to the guys living in lagistan joining in on this 200+ person battle, what happens when half the people playing have bad isp's whatever their fps is thats nice but in the real world everyone wont be partaking in these battles from a shared lan line...and i would love to see the the un godly and expensive servers that would be required to ensure such quality gaming if, that is, everyone involved in the massive battle is on a steallar connection i want this to come out as much as the next guy but i truely believe this is all hype...bad hype...the kind of sht you tell a community when your hiding a secret just to pump them up to garner more support/investment just another thought...takes about how many years to build a nuclear reactor...is taking them how many years to make darkfall...it took us how many years to put a man on the moon.... "somethin' aint right" |
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