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mike470  6/20/08 7:14:35 PM
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Sure, VG had its flaws, but every game does (including AOC...).  With the release of AOC, well...have been stripped from us.

Vanguard                                                                                              Age of Conan

Instancing:

VG hardly consists of ANY instances.  Today, Lobo and I were doing a quest where we had to explore a dungeon.. Sure, we both ended up running for our  lives, but we ran for out lives with NO INSTANCING.  In Vanguard, if you see it, you can explore it.

Well...Age of Conan is full of instancing.  An instance here and an instance there...well, it just takes away from the immerse feeling of an MMO

NOTE:  There is nothing wrong with instances if they are worth it (like in Citadel of Sorcery) but in a game like AoC it is NOT worth it!                                           

Crafting:

Vanguard has an amazing crafting system, with different twists and turns..There is always a risk of making that error that could cost you,

 AoC's crafting is hardly even complete

Gameplay:

Vanguard will always keep you busy.  There are three things you can get to level 50 on:  Crafting, Adventuring, and Diplomacy.  Each level is filled with interesting quests and new things to do

Gameplay:

AoC hardly has anything to past level 50, which forces players to grind. 

These are just a few reasons of why VG clearly surpasses AoC.  AoC was developed for a console, and it will always be that way.

Vanguard is the true MMO of PvE games.

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metatronic  6/20/08 7:27:05 PM
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Ya I feel bad for the people who are going to continue to pay for console tweaking and bug testing.. Thats where that games going and its a major reason why the sound and graphics are so spiffy.. but everything else seems to suck.. You're play testing it for consoles morons!
 
mike470  6/20/08 7:29:45 PM
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Oh, and just to add a few more points, VG has ship and house building...UNINSTANCED!

Also, the community is great in VG...as for AOC...err...not so much.

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Kenze  6/20/08 7:51:42 PM
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This should be in the Vanguard forums and this is clearly an attempt to cause strife and troll bait.

the only reason you post this in the AoC forums is because only the few Vanbois left ever read the VG forums.

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EndDream  6/20/08 7:54:41 PM
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actually this post is right where it belongs...

do you hate AoC?

play vanguard because its pretty much the exact opposite except VG has better graphics..


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rvjones10  6/20/08 7:56:57 PM
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i think ive learned my lesson when it comes to mmo's.  No more pre-order!!!! 

For reasons based on my own style of play and my disdain for instancing I will be returning to Vanguard. I really  enjoy some aspects of AOC but there is not enough to keep my interest.
 
Kenze  6/20/08 8:02:00 PM
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people can be such hypocrites. We all know how Vanguard was at launch and just comparing VG and AoC at launch AoC is miles ahead of where VG was. Its taken Vanguard nearly a year to get  to where its at..  AoC in a year will be great and still have 5x the population and potential that VG has.

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mike470  6/20/08 8:09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Kenze

people can be such hypocrites. We all know how Vanguard was at launch and just comparing VG and AoC at launch AoC is miles ahead of where VG was. Its taken Vanguard nearly a year to get  to where its at..  AoC in a year will be great and still have 5x the population and potential that VG has.


 

So what?  It's fixed now, and it is a great game.  If something is good now, I do not care how the game was a launch.  If VG still  was in the condition is was at launch, well then of course not as many people would be playing.

But why wait 6 months for AOC to be fixed when you already have a complete game with no instances ready to play?  VG still has tons of potential, yet I fail to see how a game that makes you go in instances to battle and lags like crazy has any more potential than Vanguard.

Also, sure  when VG was released when it shoudk have been in beta, but at least those people didn't pay to beta test a console version of it!

NOTE:  Nothign is wrong with instances if they are worth it, yet in AOC they are NOT worth it.

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Kyleran  6/20/08 8:13:24 PM
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Originally posted by mike470

Vanguard is the true MMO of PvE games.

 

And this one little point means, Vanguard will never be a good MMO game.  (because w/o PVP, there is no game)  Not saying AOC is good yet, but it has potential to be good with the planned changes, VG is a non-starter forever on this issue.

 

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mike470  6/20/08 8:15:04 PM
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Originally posted by Kyleran
Originally posted by mike470

Vanguard is the true MMO of PvE games.

 

And this one little point means, Vanguard will never be a good MMO game.  (because w/o PVP, there is no game)  Not saying AOC is good yet, but it has potential to be good with the planned changes, VG is a non-starter forever on this issue.

 


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