Aion

Originally posted by Umbral

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by Umbral

"As a reminder though, this game isn't about questing, grinding or flying. This game is about a seamless PvP area with a complex RvR concept,"

 

Ephimero

Well, Im following Aion development for years and  I agree with you in some points, but I think we cant be sure about that right now.

I already saw at least 3 interviews where they say Aion is about Questing then  RvR...

A couple of months I started to see devs saying Aion has quests but the game is not about it, it is just about RvR .

Then the most confusing aspect, devs belive Ellyos will be much more populated than Asmodians, so the dinamics of both paths would be different, see, Im pretty sure the soul reaver exotic looks of asmodians will seduce a lot of players while the angel aspect of ellyos seems to be more bland, Im sure this will be an issue between players and ncsoft... this reminds me some things like dusk and dawn in L2 and how NCsoft never try to make a real smart change to bring fair choices in their games.

To tell the truth, I belive this kind of dubious information is there to seduce both westerns and easterns players...  anyway, I still belive Aion will be a good game.

 

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I fail to see where we disagree. Devs stated, as you say, that Asmodians will level faster at first, but then Elyos will level faster at the end, getting it balanced.

And yeah, im aware that the lead designer stated that the game would be about the abyss, which is what I tried to say.

Lead designer said that people will be able to reach level 50 just by doing quests, but that doesn't mean it will be the fastest way to level up, the fastest way will be that one where the risk is, aka the abyss.

Well, i think I disagree with you in something, atm, polls and the overal feel in NA/EU communities point at a slight advantage in population for Elyos, in Korea the difference is a bit bigger, but that won't affect the game as the 3rd faction will balance things up in case it's necessary.

 

About Elyos vs Asmodians I really didnt explain it in a good way, I used the dusk/dawn example, but I confess, I failed to explain my point.

See, ncsoft say, Elyos will be more popular, but at the same time 89% of marketing and screenshots focus on Elyos, everyone knows about Elyos, somehow it seems NCsoft just want to see Elyos more popular, sure, everyone will vote on Elyos, all we see about Aion has an angel and not the Soul Reaver like race... this is for sure an issue in RvR , same happened in a different way in Dusk vs Dawn in L2, NCsoft made it in a way it would be obvious everyone would just go for dawn.

 We cant say for sure now if it is really a quest game or not, first they expressed quests would be a major factor in Aion , what made me hope for great storylines, good quests, good dungeons... but when they say now, this game is about RvR period it sounds a bit more like L2 with just a bigger number of quests, but weak and bland quests and storylines that are there only to reach max level as the grind of L2.

 Well, sometimes Devs say it is about the Abyss, sometimes it is about questing and the abyss, the only point I disagree with you is, we cant be sure about it now.

 I really dont like to rush to level cap and end game, I will wait and see if this time NCsoft can create a game where you can have fun and good experiences even in low levels.

 

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well, i think you might have been a bit spoiled by previous MMO's, or so it seems from reading your argument.

A game focused in RvR can have good storylines and quests cutscenes, it's not like if you had to drop 1 feature out of those 2 :)

About the Elyos being more advertised, Elyos were introduced first, nowadays Asmodians share the spotlight with them in even terms, MMORPG.com however doesn't, Im still waiting for them to upload the new classes videos and Asmodians screens ._.

We can't be sure about how the game will feel like once it hits the shelves, however, we can foresee based on the facts available. Beta testers have indeed reported that the game is quite story driven, Irisviel in Aionsource said so, to be precise. We all have seen the quests cutscenes by now in youtube, and many of those can be associated to what we know about Aion's lore, so, in my opinion, and from what I know, Aion's quests will be enjoyable, and, again, from what I know, the abyss will be the main activity.

Just a small reminder here, there are quests in the abyss, I was amazed when i read that there will be a quest that will ask you to infiltrate inside the draconic carrier (that giant ship seen in Gstar07 trailer), for example.

Gotta admit this is a good debate, props, I was lacking those here in this forum :)

i agree but if games waaaaaay to grindy wih not enough endgame content ....  im not going to be interested....i have low tolerance for grinding.........which is why i almost died geting to lv 20 in lineage 2.............grindy games just arent for me ...wwhich is y i like gw/lunia......MONKS FTW >____< * cough *

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Originally posted by 1337Mercenar
I am on a wii so I wont spend an hour arguing and explaining to you but ill only say this flight will be like no other game 1. no flight paths--you can fly where you want 2. beautiful crytek graphics 3. crytek engine allows you to see many yards away without land fading away 4. in air combat --that sums it up

 

1. That doesn't change anything. The other games I have played didn't have flight paths either.

2. Already talked about graphics. Yeah, they're nice.

3. Crytek isn't the only engine that does that. Lol.

4. I've fought in the air before.

  I can't agree until I get to play it .

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I dunno so many hyped AOC and look how that turn out. So many are hyping WAR and people are having mixed feelings. People forget about AION which actually could turn out to be better than both. People complain and call it an Asian grinder but people loved FFXI and Lineage mmos. Aion could be a pleasant suprise.

Originally posted by 1337Mercenar

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Originally posted by 1337Mercenar
I am on a wii so I wont spend an hour arguing and explaining to you but ill only say this flight will be like no other game 1. no flight paths--you can fly where you want 2. beautiful crytek graphics 3. crytek engine allows you to see many yards away without land fading away 4. in air combat --that sums it up

 

1. That doesn't change anything. The other games I have played didn't have flight paths either.

2. Already talked about graphics. Yeah, they're nice.

3. Crytek isn't the only engine that does that. Lol.

4. I've fought in the air before.

you depressed? Go make your own game or go in your games thread

You got a problem with then come out and say it. Flight and flight combat is not a selling point to someone who's been around the MMORPG block. None of his points are. Some people care about graphics, fine that's good. I'd be lying if I said that I didn't, but i'd rather have a nice solid game instead of super graphics. No AoC repeats please.

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Originally posted by 1337Mercenar

Originally posted by Thunder_Head

Originally posted by 1337Mercenar
I am on a wii so I wont spend an hour arguing and explaining to you but ill only say this flight will be like no other game 1. no flight paths--you can fly where you want 2. beautiful crytek graphics 3. crytek engine allows you to see many yards away without land fading away 4. in air combat --that sums it up

 

1. That doesn't change anything. The other games I have played didn't have flight paths either.

2. Already talked about graphics. Yeah, they're nice.

3. Crytek isn't the only engine that does that. Lol.

4. I've fought in the air before.

you depressed? Go make your own game or go in your games thread

 

You got a problem with then come out and say it. Flight and flight combat is not a selling point to someone who's been around the MMORPG block. None of his points are. Some people care about graphics, fine that's good. I'd be lying if I said that I didn't, but i'd rather have a nice solid game instead of super graphics. No AoC repeats please.

Aion doesn't have 'super graphics' it has very well designed graphics that get the most out of the engine they are running on, just like Lineage II. You will not need a super computer to play Aion, want proof? Go read some translated beta tester blogs. Better yet look up Farcry's system specs, they will be roughly the same.

Also, the way they are testing the game and from the blogs and videos I have seen so far, Aion looks very solid. I have not heard once the devs say "oh the game might not look stable now but keep in mind this is beta" like I have heard so many fans and devs say in the past. This leads me to believe Aion actually has a chance.

I am still riding the fence on this one.  I will try a trial first . . .