To the OP, interesting claim although I do not think i can agree with it.  AOC is a success, population wise.  The game has received good reviews from many gaming sites and it is still in it's infancy.  I know there is a growing trend for in-game advertisements, however that does not warrant a successful game to go f2p.  Also, to the OP, i am curious how you rate games if you say that age of conan is a good game, but not a good mmorpg.  I guess you are taking the criteria for what makes a good single player game and using it to rate age of conan.    

There isn't anything wrong with that method, it just has limited range on covering all the aspects when rating the single player genre vs. the mmorpg genre. 

to the post about oil: Europe pays double what the US pays for gas.  Oil is so cheap in other parts of the world because they consume so much less of it.  Oil is a commodity.  The higher the demand, the higher the price. 

Originally posted by TheHavok

To the OP, interesting claim although I do not think i can agree with it.  AOC is a success, population wise.  The game has received good reviews from many gaming sites and it is still in it's infancy.  I know there is a growing trend for in-game advertisements, however that does not warrant a successful game to go f2p.  Also, to the OP, i am curious how you rate games if you say that age of conan is a good game, but not a good mmorpg.  I guess you are taking the criteria for what makes a good single player game and using it to rate age of conan.    

There isn't anything wrong with that method, it just has limited range on covering all the aspects when rating the single player genre vs. the mmorpg genre. 

to the post about oil: Europe pays double what the US pays for gas.  Oil is so cheap in other parts of the world because they consume so much less of it.  Oil is a commodity.  The higher the demand, the higher the price. 

You can read my review of the game here http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/184350

Originally posted by TheHavok

To the OP, interesting claim although I do not think i can agree with it.  AOC is a success, population wise.  The game has received good reviews from many gaming sites and it is still in it's infancy.  I know there is a growing trend for in-game advertisements, however that does not warrant a successful game to go f2p.  Also, to the OP, i am curious how you rate games if you say that age of conan is a good game, but not a good mmorpg.  I guess you are taking the criteria for what makes a good single player game and using it to rate age of conan.    

There isn't anything wrong with that method, it just has limited range on covering all the aspects when rating the single player genre vs. the mmorpg genre. 

to the post about oil: Europe pays double what the US pays for gas.  Oil is so cheap in other parts of the world because they consume so much less of it.  Oil is a commodity.  The higher the demand, the higher the price. 

You mean Tortage got good reviews. Apparently the reviewers didn't see or negelcted to mention beyond that point. Will the game be f2p ? Absolutely not. They will continue to charge people 15 a month.

just because you want it to be f2p, doesn't mean it will be.

i'm sure someone posted what i just said before... but i'd like to clarify things with logic.

Originally posted by Nachteule

just because you want it to be f2p, doesn't mean it will be.

i'm sure someone posted what i just said before... but i'd like to clarify things with logic.

You are wrong.  Even if AoC was F2P, I wouldn't play it.  The crafting system is the absolute worst of any AAA game I've seen.  I am embarrassed for Funcom that they'd even include there crafting and gathering system at launch.  It is HORRID.  Combine that with the Age of Clonan model with all the instances and zone cloning to control population and it isn't the game for me.  It is a great game.  It isn't an MMORPG.  Other than the first free month, I won't be giving the game any more of my time.

Yeah I don't think it will be f2p any time soon. Funcom put way to much money into it and there are many games that people thought would die are still going strong and are p2p.  I haven't played the game myself but I was interested in the game but I heard its heavily instanced. If I want that Id just go back to playing DDO cuz it makes since in that game, cuz when I used to play the pnp game we did fast travel a lot.

Shannia you keep saying it is not an MMORPG.

MMORPG

Massively - Yes (The 200 people I run past in each zone who can freely attack me while i quest confirms this)

Mulitiplayer - Yes

Online - Yes

Role Playing Game - Yes

If they turned off the mulitple instances off would that all of a sudden make in a MMORPG? Is that the defining difference?  The multiple instances is one of the best things about this game, no competing for spawn, you can switch instances if you are getting harrassed. Open up your mind to a new idea once in a while.

This is not guild wars, in guild wars you can not quest and play openly, that game is pure private/group instance. It is a very big difference.

Guild wars also uses a different funding model, it makes you pay for all new content in the form of expansions where all new content in conan is coming included in the subscription.

Stop posting troll rubbish.

Originally posted by Shannia

IMHO, AoC will be a F2P game in 24-36 months with EIDOS taking advantage of #5 in the your EULA, i.e. In-game Advertising.  After getting to 45, I can honestly say this game has more of a G.W./Hellgate:London feel than a MMORPG.  As good as the game is, I don't feel it is worth paying monthly subscriptions for.  Again, IMHO, there are many F2P games that are much more of an MMORPG that are worth paying for, but are free, than AoC.  Great game, just not a good MMORPG at all.

 *Edit*  I changed my prediction on In-Game Advertising because as someone pointed out, AoC on the XBox 360 will be coming out soon.  As such, it will breath more life into the game.

 

well... I love Guild Wars:

it has:

diverse maps

class BALANCE

an almost infinite number of valid builds

does get better the higher you level (not the other way round)

and it is fun and not a grind

edit: nm...