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I just finished indulging myself in the hell we now call AoC.

I've posted on here a few times trying to find a game worth playing. At least in my idea of it. No one has ever real come to a conclusion for me or put any amazing advice out there. So I'm trying again and maybe for the last time.

I've been playing MMO's since late October of 2003. That's right, FFXI. I'm honestly considering going back to it again, but there just doesn't seem to be enough people. It's to hard to find groups and level.

So now on to what I'm truly looking for.

I want a game that is focused on PvE, but also has PvP in it.

Something that has a good community base and you may not NEED people to play the game with, but you do to some degree.

Something with crafting that is worth it, where crafted items are used and are actually good to use.

Something that takes effort and/or time to play.

Something where guilds can fight each other and/or build a guild city.

And last but not least! Something with a class I enjoy, This being the most important part of this. I need a class that can wear the "Heavy Armor" such as plate mail. Something that can wield a 2 handed sword and can also use a ranged weapon.

That's what I consider important, it would also be nice if there was some type of story to go along with as well.

Thank you for any advice given.

Erhun

EDIT:

Here is a list of games I already own: FFXI, LOTRO, TR (Tabula Rasa), AoC, WoW, Hellgate London.

That is all I could find the boxes for...Here is what I have played other than those: EQ2, Rakion, Runescape, Planetside.

I believe that is all. After seeing my TR box I am considering that and FFXI again, but I would really like to try a game I haven't played before for that thrill of not knowing what to do.

Nope. I miss the old school MMO's...

Originally posted by Erhun

I want a game that is focused on PvE, but also has PvP in it.

Something that has a good community base and you may not NEED people to play the game with, but you do to some degree.

Something with crafting that is worth it, where crafted items are used and are actually good to use.

Something that takes effort and/or time to play.

Something where guilds can fight each other and/or build a guild city.

And last but not least! Something with a class I enjoy, This being the most important part of this. I need a class that can wear the "Heavy Armor" such as plate mail. Something that can wield a 2 handed sword and can also use a ranged weapon.

That's what I consider important, it would also be nice if there was some type of story to go along with as well.

Only thing is crafting is a bit boring but the items are damn nice.. that and you can only buy a guild house, not build one and guilds don't fight eachother.

It's an easy game to a lot of people but maybe give the trial a try and see... basically everything else is there. Up to you though. good luck on finding a game.

I actually own it and did play myself and with a few friends. As much as I enjoyed it. It just didn't feel quite right. LOTRO does have everything listed basically but I quit that to try AoC. I think I am going to edit this list to what I own and have played.

Fair enough... Can't really think of any others... Vanguard maybe.... I've never played it but it sounds like it has those stuff and I just picked up the collector's edition for $11 so I'll see if it's any good soon enough.

I heard it was good. As you play it could you PM me your experiences on it. I would greatly appreciate it.

I've heard good things about EVE Online, although I haven't tried it out myself.  I believe it's sort of a Sci-Fi, spacefighter thing.

I've heard about EVE that no matter what you do there is no way to surpass the people that have been playing since day one.

Plus I really need a game that I can see my character.

Originally posted by Erhun

I've heard about EVE that no matter what you do there is no way to surpass the people that have been playing since day one.

Plus I really need a game that I can see my character.

Well I'm currently hooked at Neosteam Global this game was previously from japan and now it's translated to english check it out you might like it

Due to the dearth of captivating MMOs within the past few years, I too have tried EVE recently.  The tantalizing tales of an immensely complex crafting/prospecting/mercantile-based economy drew me in.  However, when I gave the game its well-deserved fair shake I was sorely disappointed.

I'm not quite sure what you're seeking, but, if like me, you are looking for an open-ended (or true sandbox, like me [read: Pre-NGE SWG]), EVE may well prove to be your divining light or your ultimate disappointment.  The catch here is there is nothing at all you can do to advance in any aspect of the game other than wait.  That's right - in lieu of levelling and/or grinding, which I tend to loath to an extent, the only thing one can do to progress in EVE is let real world time elapse.

The economic activity in EVE is truly, nay, epically phenomenal, as is the player versus player content.  But, in order to realize that fact one has to wait months upon months to allow themselves to "level up" or be forced to join a large corporation (seriously, there's nothing you can do to level up other than wait - obviously a shrewd business model, but so not worth if it you actually enjoy the "ding").  And again, I cannot stress this enough to folks considering EVE, there is absolutely nothing you can do to speed the process along - it's simply a waiting game.

What do I mean?  Well, when you start a new toon you have a choice of races and professions.  Standard fodder for any MMORPG.  Once you select your basic skills and head out to test the waters, you do a couple missions.  Suddenly, after a bunch of kills and completed quests, you realize that you haven't progressed in level and you decide to check your skill panel (generically speaking, as per any MMORPG) and notice that you're not lacking XP - you're lacking real world hours!  So you press "Train" or "Learn" (forgot the actual terminology) and just logout for a couple days at first, then a couple weeks, then a couple mo