There are people who have problems with their computers and will suffer performance issues with any game they play.   Your story on the other hand is about a game that was almost universally sited for its terrible performance and NOT spyware or user error related issues.  Lotro plays fine for the majority of players because it was a finished product when it launched.  Just because people do have problems doesn't mean that VG is in any way shape of form a similar situation.

Unless you honestly think everyone should have a seperate computer for each MMO they want to play and have a staff of seasoned hardware builders that comes to their house to babysit their systems and keep it on the cutting edge of software releases.  (not that any of that would have fixed the engine issues with VG as you seem to think).  Yes I have also tried VG with clean installs of windows Vista and XP and just the VG client.  It didn't magically fix the issues the game has or make things go away. 

Mind you, I am not saying the game isn't very playable as I think it is, but it is by no mean flawless game as you comments try to paint it.

Originally posted by swede2

 

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2.

Look harg ive been playing vanguard every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1. I dont have a problem running It what so ever .

 

I have heard some whoppers in my day, but this one takes the cake.  Highest settings possible since day one and no problems....   I have no idea what it takes to play crysis, but come on two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I understand it gets old hearing post after post like the original posters, but they keep posting it because the game does have big performance problems.  Aside from a few raving fans here and the official forums just listen to what people are saying.  Heck, ignore the players and just read the devs posts.  From the lead dev on down they all talk about performance being a top priority.  What was the first thing Silius posted in the dev diary.  Performance performance performance... 

Look at Gu4 and the hack job they did on facial customizations.   Why did they do it?  Performance reasons.

 

All these posts about how flawless the game runs and there are no issues are just flat out misleading to anyone interested in the game.  I'm sure the same people talking about how awesome the game runs right now will be back after the next patching talking about how the game runs sooo much better. 

 

 

I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything but the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

 

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

This is BS seriously. Are you trying to tell people that you have had no problem with vg since 5 days after it released?  Its people like you who will eventually kill vg or put it so far down the sony station list that its disappeared.

When soe finally get the trail island together you will see plenty of people complaining. With your attitude about vg running great and anyone who says it isn't is lieing..you will do vg more harm than good. Vg is a buggy game and has one of the worst graphic engines to date..this is fact .

I have been playing since early beta and have 3 lvl 50 toons so dont even try and convince me that  vg is not a buggy game even on top end systems that run the most graphically dependant games yet falls to pieces when playing vg.

Guess you are never going to admit your are BSing because your fanboyism has clouded your judgement..

Prove the op wrong by making a vid of your toon in khal and several other location ..i guarantee you are bsing..

I am not saying you cant run vg ok but you are bsing..

Originally posted by anubisss

 

Originally posted by swede2

 

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2.

Look harg ive been playing vanguard every setting maxed at 1920x1200 sence day 1. I dont have a problem running It what so ever .

 

I have heard some whoppers in my day, but this one takes the cake.  Highest settings possible since day one and no problems....   I have no idea what it takes to play crysis, but come on two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I understand it gets old hearing post after post like the original posters, but they keep posting it because the game does have big performance problems.  Aside from a few raving fans here and the official forums just listen to what people are saying.  Heck, ignore the players and just read the devs posts.  From the lead dev on down they all talk about performance being a top priority.  What was the first thing Silius posted in the dev diary.  Performance performance performance... 

Look at Gu4 and the hack job they did on facial customizations.   Why did they do it?  Performance reasons.

 

All these posts about how flawless the game runs and there are no issues are just flat out misleading to anyone interested in the game.  I'm sure the same people talking about how awesome the game runs right now will be back after the next patching talking about how the game runs sooo much better. 

 

 

I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything but the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

 

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

This is BS seriously. Are you trying to tell people that you have had no problem with vg since 5 days after it released?  Its people like you who will eventually kill vg or put it so far down the sony station list that its disappeared.

 

When soe finally get the trail island together you will see plenty of people complaining. With your attitude about vg running great and anyone who says it isn't is lieing..you will do vg more harm than good. Vg is a buggy game and has one of the worst graphic engines to date..this is fact .

I have been playing since early beta and have 3 lvl 50 toons so dont even try and convince me that  vg is not a buggy game even on top end systems that run the most graphically dependant games yet falls to pieces when playing vg.

Guess you are never going to admit your are BSing because your fanboyism has clouded your judgement..

Prove the op wrong by making a vid of your toon in khal and several other location ..i guarantee you are bsing..

I am not saying you cant run vg ok but you are bsing..

Ya the game has bugs forsure about the same as any mmo ive ever played , bud trust me if i was having problems i would be the first one to trash the disks into the garbage bin just like half the games i buy and your the first person to bring up bugs here so how am i trying to convince you that vanguard has no bugs lol

I dont have to prove anything to you or anybody i feel bad for people having problems forsure but the fact is i have no more problems playing vanguard than ive had playing any other mmo , which isnt alot of them DaOC and WOW. In fact i fell through the world more in one day in the AB battleground at one point in wow than i have in over a full year of vanguard  and that little bug went on for about 3 months before blizzard fixed it and i could list 100's of other little things but whats the point

No doubt people have problems running vanguard but am not one of them.

I played from beta thru live for a few months. I only fell thru the world a couple times after launch. There were a few bad zone spots in beta, but you quickly learned to avoid them. I never really had major lag issues. NT still gave my computer fits this past christmas but that is 1 town in a very large world. I left because of Missives and the drive to easy leveling.

Originally posted by Daffid011

There are people who have problems with their computers and will suffer performance issues with any game they play.   Your story on the other hand is about a game that was almost universally sited for its terrible performance and NOT spyware or user error related issues.  Lotro plays fine for the majority of players because it was a finished product when it launched.  Just because people do have problems doesn't mean that VG is in any way shape of form a similar situation.

 

Unless you honestly think everyone should have a seperate computer for each MMO they want to play and have a staff of seasoned hardware builders that comes to their house to babysit their systems and keep it on the cutting edge of software releases.  (not that any of that would have fixed the engine issues with VG as you seem to think).  Yes I have also tried VG with clean installs of windows Vista and XP and just the VG client.  It didn't magically fix the issues the game has or make things go away. 

 

Mind you, I am not saying the game isn't very playable as I think it is, but it is by no mean flawless game as you comments try to paint it.

 

 

 

 

Did i say everyone sould have a super computer with one game on it doh, i said i do and i think thats a big reason why i dont have many preformance problems running vanguard

And the reason i have a staff of seasoned hardware builders come to my house is because between me and my wife and kids we have gave them about 15 grand worth of business in the last year  and they treat us pretty good and rightly so

Originally posted by sirgeekalot

   So, i just built a new rig, 8800GTS 512, vista64 yata yata.. anyway, i have a station pass for a month so i figured i would give vanguard one last chance.. ( i canceled my preorder during beta, then went back afterwards out of sheer boredom )   I have always wanted this game to succeed just because of its roots but have been sorely disappointed.  It would seem many others are as well as they are down to 4 servers at this point.

   After installing, tweaking and reading all the "tech forums"  Its clear that this game has several fatal flaws that spell  its doom.  All of them technical.  The game world is nice, the gameplay is fun, but its about as well put together as the Alien/human baby ripley had to kill in the last alien movie.   Oh and before you start flaming, yes i have all the latest drivers etc.  Save the inane " its your rig" comments.

  I mean come on.  My rig can run Crysis in DX10 with all High settings at 1920x1200 without stuttering but i cant run this at even half those settings with any sort of decent flow.   Unless SOE pulls a rabbit out of its hat and had a super secret DX 10 patch of doom, its over.

Did you get cyber whacked or something while playing the game?

Please explain as to why this game needs to not be around in order for you to be happy.

I'll tell you why this game should not be around, because ever since release, poeple have spent Millions and had to quit, and its still scuking people in for there money, remember most don't know about message bords to find out, and the box looks good in stores, Like I say someone should go to jail over this game, or at least someone should put a big red sticker on it telling that you need a super computer and you may be playing alone !

Originally posted by page

I'll tell you why this game should not be around, because ever since release, poeple have spent Millions and had to quit, and its still scuking people in for there money, remember most don't know about message bords to find out, and the box looks good in stores, Like I say someone should go to jail over this game, or at least someone should put a big red sticker on it telling that you need a super computer and you may be playing alone !

This might have been true last year, but now it's just drama.

Originally posted by page

I'll tell you why this game should not be around, because ever since release, poeple have spent Millions and had to quit, and its still scuking people in for there money, remember most don't know about message bords to find out, and the box looks good in stores, Like I say someone should go to jail over this game, or at least someone should put a big red sticker on it telling that you need a super computer and you may be playing alone !

GRRR ME ANGRY !

Well SOE are slowing turning this game into a shit version of WOW anyways.

I'm about to cancel 4 all access accounts as soon as I can convert some assets;  I won't support these games anymore.  One of the accounts has been running continuously since 1998.  The other 3 for a good portion of that time.  Converted or not, I'm done before the month is out.  

I am sick of the changes and the methods used for determining the changes, and the catering to the few.  In the last few months I have been getting more upset due to changes they have been making in Vanguard (and are about to make) and the recent crafting changes in EQII.  I am fed up with their constant dumbing down and over-simplifying of the systems rather then making them into what they were meant to be.   They've lost their vision -- unless as has been said before they intend to make them into Wow-clones.  And if that is their intent -- I am not their audience.  BTW:  The Wow-audience won't be coming anytime soon.  Of that I am willing to bet.

I guess I'll need a new signature soon-- at least I'll have plenty of time to work on one now!

Originally posted by harg

 

Originally posted by swede2

 

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by swede2
I dont care what you think , the computer i use for vanguard is used just for that nothing else ,i dont serf the internet on it and i dont downlaod anything put the update's i need to play vanguard . Ya about 8 months ago after one of there patches i did have a problem with crashing to desktop but honestly i couldnt tell you if that was vanguard or the crappy drivers they had for the 8800GTX at the time

 

Ive got 5 desktops in my house and 2 laptops and the one i use for vanguard is off limits to everyone but me , It's never had a virus or even spyware on it because its just used for the mmo am playing at the moment and it runs vanguard flawless and has sence not exactly day 1 but about day 5 of release

And am i bit pissed at losing face customizations over a few FPS that i dont even need myself but if it helps other people play i guess i can live with it considering i spend about .001% of my playing time looking at the front of my character .Anyways sonys lieing through teeth about that there isnt a noticable preformance increase from them doing that not on test anyways lots of my guildies said its about the same as live but guess will see when they patch it to the live servers

 

The problem with Vanguard has never been spyware or the failures of the users computer.  That representation is part of what got this game such a bad reputation in the first place and continues to give people higher than reasonable expectations when trying it out now.  It has always been with the VG engine itself.  It doesn't matter if your computer is protected by a "trust based" security system like yours.  Which by the way is the most ineffective protection method in the world. 

 

You jumped on the original poster for making an unbelievable statement and then turn around and talk about how crystal clear VG runs for you since day one without any problems?  That flies in the face of just about everything in the history of the game untold tens or hundreds of thousands of people.  From the unstable launch to the overwhelming discussion of the worst performance coming for Nvidia 8800's by both players and devs alike.  The card which you claim to use. 

 

Maybe your story is somehow in the realm of bizzaro world true, but it sure is beyond hard to swallow and certainly makes an unbelievable followup comment after you claim someone else is lieing about their experiences in the game.  I know given the choice between the two based on just the merits of the claims his comes out much easier to believe.

Like i said daffid i dont care what you think or heard or whatever ive been extremly lucky when it comes to vanguard  I dont know why maybe because i have two friends that have been building and bench marking computers for 15 years and they come over and update all my drivers once in awhile , like how many average gamers have even updated there bios or any driver besides sound and graphic's

 

But honesly i think its because my gaming comuter only has vanguard on it  and thats all its used for theres nothing else on it  most people have 50 shortcuts on thier desktop there harddrive is 3/4 full of crap and pictures and screens and video's. You get the idea not many people can afford to have a top of the line computer that is used for only one game but i can and i think thats is a big reason why i never have any problems

Ya i read the vanguard forums and i just shake my head at people having problems i dont see them and i dont know why and i dont really care either

So tell me why do people hitch when they play LoTR and alot of people dont , we all know the game runs awesome i mean it couldnt possiable be there computers and maintenance habits could it

Oh i never said he was lieing about vanguard but dont even try and tell me you play Crysis every setting maxed in DX10 with the rig he posted maybe at the med range settings but hey the game still looks awesome even at med settings

 

Listen mate i've had Vangurad since launch and i know how bad it runs for certain setups (seems to be worse on high end). I have also had Crysis since launch and Crysis runs better, in SP and MP. And i run it at 1920x1200 in DX10 every setting except AA is maxed and it runs smooth. And it's even better now with nVidia improving drivers and Crysis now being on patch 1.2.

SoE are the problem with Vanguard, they are doing what they always do. Instead of fixing the bugs in a game they decide that the game needs a major overheaul of mechanics and start fucking everything up. Even though the performance was shit at launch and it was full of bugs , i like the game and it's mechanics. It stood out somewhat from the other loot based games. But now SoE instead of fixing what was wrong they are turing the game into a total EQII clone to save them making an EQIII from scratch.

Its a single player game its totaly different than a mmo there's no comparing the two as far as performance goes , stupidest thing ive ever heard on a gaming forums
Ya i agree sony just seems brain dead when it comes to vanguard i just dont understand  where they think there headed with it. All give them till after Gu4 and than i think my whole guild is pulling the pin on the game.  I was thinking there trying to get us people that like vanguard to quit , thinking will all go to EQ2. But this is my first sony game and from what ive seen from them it will be my last sony game i play.

.... my monthly peek into the VG forums.....  still see posts like this. When will they ever release a damn trial so everyone can just download it and see if it will work?!  How long does that take? Just put an invisible wall around a starting area somewhere, and let people install it and see if it will work. All debate about whether or not it will work just go away.

It's been a year, and nothing, combine that fact with posts like this, and buying this game would take more faith than getting some kind of growth cream from a cheesy canadian web site.

why do people keep bringing up all this after such a long time has gone by.....lol.......everyone has their likes and dislikes.....its called an opinion....if all you trollers are right then  everyone in the world would be playin the 1 ultimate game.......doesn't exsist except in legends..

your all silly....to say "its dieinf, let it die"......stop being such drama queens.

i have played plenty of mmo"s and let me tell you vanguard is a gem compared to a lot. also get over the whole bad launch thing, you can only use that line for so long. this is a monster of a game and has a lot of flavor and their taking all that flavor so it can appeal to everyones tastes buds!

as for SoE, i think a lot of you put a little to much drama into them. if it wasn't for them their would be a lot less half decent games out their. their just something for people to push their problems on.

remember its just a game and theirs millions of gamers out their and millions comming. its here to stay, plus its the only game i know of that i can ride a horse into the horizon and get lost.!

Originally posted by evoga
Why the hell do people bother with vista, and especially the 64bit version? It just doesn't make any sense. A fool and their money are easily parted...

I got vista for 1 reason only you can only play halo 2 and in 8 months halo 3 on vista :)