Vanguard: Saga of Heroes

i expect pie and cheese on the same table lol

yeah so i dont play the game any more its run over bye the trucks and cars that smashed it ^_^ changed subject :D

Originally posted by Zsavooz

Originally posted by CleffyII

I HAVE A SIMILIAR STORY!!!!

  So there were alot of people on these forums saying how Vanguard is great now and how they turned it around.  So I went out and bought a copy for $12.99.  Then after 2 days of patching I started to play.  Let me tell you it was an experience like no other.  There are no words to describe how utterly boring it is and how painful it is to watch the actual game.  There is no style or good design in the game.  Its like most other crappy western mmos except you have to walk alot further to get something done.

  It is the perfect game for the work-a-holic.  After playing for an hour, you may actually feel excited about the endevours of filling in a spreadsheet.

So, even if I buy this game today, at the store or digitally, it's going to take 2 days to patch it? Are you serious?

If you have the disks, patching is a few hours depending on the speed of your connection.

Originally posted by Skippy13

 

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Originally posted by Zorndorf
With less than 40 K subscriptions the game is as good as dead.
Why invest?

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because if your having fun then your getting your moneys worth and thats really all that matters...

-Skip

While low population MMORPGs doesn't mean a new player cannot find people to play with and won't have fun, it does beg the question of "how long will the game be around?" and "How much money is SOE throwing at a low pop. game?" and "Will this next 6 months of developing my character be worth it, if there is a possibility of the game shutting down in a couple/few years?"

Originally posted by Zsavooz

Originally posted by CleffyII

I HAVE A SIMILIAR STORY!!!!

  So there were alot of people on these forums saying how Vanguard is great now and how they turned it around.  So I went out and bought a copy for $12.99.  Then after 2 days of patching I started to play.  Let me tell you it was an experience like no other.  There are no words to describe how utterly boring it is and how painful it is to watch the actual game.  There is no style or good design in the game.  Its like most other crappy western mmos except you have to walk alot further to get something done.

  It is the perfect game for the work-a-holic.  After playing for an hour, you may actually feel excited about the endevours of filling in a spreadsheet.

So, even if I buy this game today, at the store or digitally, it's going to take 2 days to patch it? Are you serious?

It's going to depend on your internet connection.  Last time I wiped my HD and reformatted, it took about 3 hours to patch from the disks.  I'm on a 10MB cable connection, but the patcher doesn't use all of that (I was downloading a few videos and playing COD4 at the same time). 

On my father-in-law's DSL connection (256K) it took about 3 hours as well.

Originally posted by Malivius

Actually, the development team behind Vanguard has been working feverishly on the trial for many months.  We are anxiously awaiting it's release right now.  They realize that they have a HUGE hurdle to overcome (most of it being things they are not responsible for), so they are polishing, perfecting, and pushing to ensure things come out just right. 

Buddy keys are included in both the Normal Edition (1 or 2 I believe) and with the CE (10).  They're constantly being handed out on the VG forums here, and in fact, there is a HUGE handout going on over at the official forums.  One player bought 15 copies of the CE and is handing out over 150 buddy keys.  Stop by and explore it if you like. 

I was a naysayer during beta and at launch.  The team behind the game has changed my mind.  They're dedicated, hard-working, and they actually care what the players think (a recent change in one update altered itemization in the game...there was an outcry, they are currently polling the community on ways to fix/revert the change).  It's come along way.  It's not perfect, but it floats my boat currently. 

 

I'm not bashing the game, because I've actually always liked the game, I just never had any confidence in the dev team or SOE in fixing the problems the game had, because I haven't seen any indication that SOE is throwing some good resources to fixing the game. My theory is that Vanguard is a pet project for them and EQ2 is their flagship, so they put the most resources towards EQ2, and Vanguard gets the scraps.

However, with the resources allotted to the dev team, they haven't done a bad job. They've just taken a really long time to do what other companies do in a month.

Originally posted by JK-Kanosi

 

Originally posted by Malivius

Actually, the development team behind Vanguard has been working feverishly on the trial for many months.  We are anxiously awaiting it's release right now.  They realize that they have a HUGE hurdle to overcome (most of it being things they are not responsible for), so they are polishing, perfecting, and pushing to ensure things come out just right. 

Buddy keys are included in both the Normal Edition (1 or 2 I believe) and with the CE (10).  They're constantly being handed out on the VG forums here, and in fact, there is a HUGE handout going on over at the official forums.  One player bought 15 copies of the CE and is handing out over 150 buddy keys.  Stop by and explore it if you like. 

I was a naysayer during beta and at launch.  The team behind the game has changed my mind.  They're dedicated, hard-working, and they actually care what the players think (a recent change in one update altered itemization in the game...there was an outcry, they are currently polling the community on ways to fix/revert the change).  It's come along way.  It's not perfect, but it floats my boat currently. 

 

I see a problem with the developers taking several months to complete a trial island. It tells me they don't have a full staff available to complete content updates and bug fixes in a timely manner. I played this game the first summer of its release, then 6 months later when they reactivated accounts during the Dec-Jan. timeframe. They were supposed to have the trial island introduced 6 months after release if I recall correctly. I also recall them taking several months before finally introducing a raid dungeon and even longer to implement permanent flying mounts, which was promised at release.

 

I'm not bashing the game, because I've actually always liked the game, I just never had any confidence in the dev team or SOE in fixing the problems the game had, because I haven't seen any indication that SOE is throwing some good resources to fixing the game. My theory is that Vanguard is a pet project for them and EQ2 is their flagship, so they put the most resources towards EQ2, and Vanguard gets the scraps.

However, with the resources allotted to the dev team, they haven't done a bad job. They've just taken a really long time to do what other companies do in a month.

For me, it's about playing (in my opinion) the best game on the market right now.  The community is healthy and growing, the dev team that is there is doing an awesome job, and I love the game.  Perhaps with the trial island, they'll see the explosion of newcomers needed for someone up high to realize that this can be so much more than a pet project. 

Sony has always said they'd rather have 10 mediocre/mid-level games than one huge popular one, so maybe that affects some of the decision making. 

You present some valid points.  I only wish SOE would give more money/people to the team.  If the work that has been done in the last year had been accomplished in the 6 months (or less) after release, Vanguard's story would be quite different.

I'll support it and play it as long as it has life (or something closer to what I'm wanting in a game comes along).  I don't see it going down anytime soon, but that's just my outlook/opinion.

Originally posted by Dmofoc

I tried AOC didnt care for it, so i quit and tried Vanguard and OMG this game is doing really well awesome graphics fun to play.   I wanted to change my last name and i asked if it could be done of the chat channel and someone resoponded "No", but then a GM contacted me and said that he would change it for me.  A GM going out of thier wat to contact YOU...Awesome.  Bravo to whoever turned that game around!

Anyone else have similar stories?

Vanguard and AoC are totally different games...Conan is more like an online action game with a videogame look and Vanguard is a great MMO.