Star Wars Galaxies

Im  sure Pre-CU was much better, skill based would have been awesome, but people cant expect SOE to fix it when it is MAKING THEM ALMOST NO MONEY. And they probably know about the new Star Wars MMO and know that it doesnt matter what they do wont make a difference. Or maybe LA and Bioware made an agreement with SOE so they wouldnt go Pre-CU to ensure the LA/Bioware MMO was a success.

Originally posted by eq2js

Im  sure Pre-CU was much better, skill based would have been awesome, but people cant expect SOE to fix it when it is MAKING THEM ALMOST NO MONEY. And they probably know about the new Star Wars MMO and know that it doesnt matter what they do wont make a difference. Or maybe LA and Bioware made an agreement with SOE so they wouldnt go Pre-CU to ensure the LA/Bioware MMO was a success.

If a new Star Wars mmo ever comes to market SWG will be shut down. LucasArts isn't going to allow two games to compete with each other. If they are smart they would shut down SWG now to try and get past the damage SOE has done to their brand then bring out the new game in a couple years.

Originally posted by eq2js

Im  sure Pre-CU was much better, skill based would have been awesome, but people cant expect SOE to fix it when it is MAKING THEM ALMOST NO MONEY. And they probably know about the new Star Wars MMO and know that it doesnt matter what they do wont make a difference. Or maybe LA and Bioware made an agreement with SOE so they wouldnt go Pre-CU to ensure the LA/Bioware MMO was a success.

Questions:

Who said precu was making almost no money?

Do you have a source or is it an assumption on your part to justify in your mind why the NGE was necessary?

Is the making almost no money idea compared to the money that WOW makes?  If so it explains why the game was changed to imitate it.

Or is the making almost no money based on SOE's profit versus cost of this specific game at the time.

Also, do you believe the game is making money now, or almost making money now? 

If you do believe it is making money now, do you really believe it makes more now than precu did then?

What is the actual quantitives do you personally use to judge making and almost  making money?  6%, 10%, 25% profit over cost from revenue?  If the game made $10mil a year at 6% percu and now makes $2mil a year at 10% NGE, is that really a higher profit?  Sure the percentage margin is higher, but the true net profit is lower. (the numbers given are hypothetical, actually waiting for OP's source data, if there is any)

Please don't think I'm flaming you, I'm being serious with these questions.

Edit, disreguard if you mean the current game is making almost no money.  I assumed you meant precu since it was mentioned in the same sentence.  If you did mean precu, questions await...carry on.

Originally posted by eq2js

The game is better than WoW, and it would do good if the old vets didnt all get ticked and leave and then beat the game to nothingness by discouraging anyone to play it.

In other words:

Everyone go download the free trial and if you like it buy it and maybe if SOE starts to get more money off of it they will improve it!

I for one tell every one thats asks me to do the trial first.......

LOL 100% of them have thanked me and gone to some other game..........

I for one dont have to beat the game $OE is way beter at it them I ever could..........

Saying SWG is "better than WoW" ignores the fact that the SWG ripoff of WoW is inferior to WoW in several critical areas:

Combat

The UI

And...network performance.

The Vet trial ended last night (an week later than originally announced, perhaps to allow the vets to say farewell to Pex, the events manager, who is not being replaced) and during the Pex farewell tour, with no combat at all in progress, the lag at the two events on Ahazi was incredible...frame rates were down to 1 per second at time from 250+ players being at the same place.  They were just standing around, mind you, not actually doing much of anything.

Then, of course, there are still bugs in SWG that have been there since beta.  There are quests in the game that have been there since launch that are still broken.  The mentalitiy of the dev team is to push out new stuff (which may or may not be bug free) instead of fixing what is broken and has been broken for years.

Originally posted by musicmann

Originally posted by MasterPain55

1/2 the content in the game was destroyed and or deleted when the nge came out. All thats left is a watered down version of a failed attempt to clone WoW due to the selfish and greedy decision made by Lucas Arts.....not SOE. Go look it up if you wish, LA are the ones that suggested and planned out the nge they are the ones who destroyed it, SOE was simply following the instructions. It's the ignorant people you see come on these boards flamming a issue that they know nothing about.

Yea, need to get your facts straight. LA did sign off on it, but it was SOE's baby from the get go. LA's only sin  was being gullible enough to actually sit, listen and believe what SOE was pitching at them. I could have heard it now. Make SWG like WOW and they will come, with words starwarsy and the like getting tossed around.

Let's be clear about this.

While SOE did conceive, develop, and implement the NGE, they did so because Lucas Arts was not happy with SWG's performance as it was, LA saw WoW and said "copy that", and SOE did what they were told to do.

Both the CU and the NGE were launched on a Lucas Empire timetable.  RotW came out in concert with the theatrical release of Episode III, and ToOW came out in concert with the home video release of Episode III.  The Lucas empire is every bit as responsible for the impetus to trash a potentially great came for a decidedly terrible one because their IP was getting its ass kicked by WoW, because SWG was released before it was ready, and WoW, on the other hand, was released by contrast  far more bug free and far more polished than SWG was.  Lucas wanted the game launched whether it was ready or not, so it launched, incomplete.  Mounts, vehicles, and player cities all came out months after the launch and they were all supposed to be in at launch under the original plan.

SWG was incomplete at launch.  It's still incomplete.  There are literally hundreds of POIs that were put on the worlds to be part of quests and other content that were never developed, and still have not been.

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Originally posted by eq2js
The game is better than WoW, and it would do good if the old vets didnt all get ticked and leave and then beat the game to nothingness by discouraging anyone to play it.
In other words:
Everyone go download the free trial and if you like it buy it and maybe if SOE starts to get more money off of it they will improve it!

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I'd rather eat pickles wrapped in bacon.

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

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Originally posted by eq2js
The game is better than WoW, and it would do good if the old vets didnt all get ticked and leave and then beat the game to nothingness by discouraging anyone to play it.
In other words:
Everyone go download the free trial and if you like it buy it and maybe if SOE starts to get more money off of it they will improve it!

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I'd rather eat pickles wrapped in bacon.

*Cringe* that sounds pretty gross man.

Something that has been lost, since the thread has drifted very far off the original topic, is that the game really is "that bad", very much so in fact.