Originally posted by logicbox9

Originally posted by Jirel

 

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by Adamantine

An a huge title, too.

AFAIK WoW and Vanguard both "only" had 30 Mio for their development.

 

 

Better double check your facts.  By all accounts WOW's initial release cost roughly 75M to develop and far more has gone into it since.  (not that they can't afford it)

Can't see 40M going into just LotRO expansions, but if so maybe Turbine's going to "NGE-it" and give it a major overall haul (such as adding meaningful pvp) to try and increase the player base.

 

 

Your comment about adding meaningful pvp to LoTRO just proves that you don't understand the game or the limitations of their liscense.  As they have said MANY TIMES on thier boards, The Tolkien family who control the liscense will not allow any PVP other than the monster PVP.

Just so you know, you're wrong. The family has no say... they own the rights to the Similarrion and the history of middle earth series or w/e... JRR sold off the rights years ago to a guy named Sal, who operates under the name Tolkien Enterprises.

Yeah, I wasn't buying that argument.  Sure, the Tolkein license holders are the ones who came up with the Monster play PVP idea.....

I was just making idle speculation.  Most likely the money is to start developing a new project  There's big money to be made in them MMO's you know. 

Originally posted by Adamantine

An a huge title, too.

AFAIK WoW and Vanguard both "only" had 30 Mio for their development.

Game Informer quoted WoW's starting budget to be between 50 and 75 million.

And as a former long time follower of Vanguard, they couldn't have spent $30 million. Not with all the issues they had, like running out of time/cash when release hit.

Edit: Whatever they put it into, I pray it's not another DDO/LOTRO clone. Turbine can do so much better.

I would assume that a sizeable investment like this is hinting at a new title, and not just polishing up LotRO. Then again, that is just me.

I doubt it has anything to do with LOTRO. MAYBE IT'S LOONEY TOONS ONLINE?! Taz would be OP

$40 mil worth of new kill tasks and pie delivery quests?

Originally posted by Thillian

 

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by Adamantine

An a huge title, too.

AFAIK WoW and Vanguard both "only" had 30 Mio for their development.

 

 

Better double check your facts.  By all accounts WOW's initial release cost roughly 75M to develop and far more has gone into it since.  (not that they can't afford it)

Can't see 40M going into just LotRO expansions, but if so maybe Turbine's going to "NGE-it" and give it a major overall haul (such as adding meaningful pvp) to try and increase the player base.

 

WoW was 80$mil development & 40$mil marketing.

 

I believe the 40$ mil is going for Asheron's Call 3.

I'd really like to see some of these "facts" with links and sources.  Not "we heard" or "its speculated" type of "facts" either.

Originally posted by Soldier420

I doubt it has anything to do with LOTRO. MAYBE IT'S LOONEY TOONS ONLINE?! Taz would be OP

Looney Toons Online fanbois vs Hello Kitty fanbois.  Could this genre sink any lower?! 

Sink? No, I don't think so. You just described an MMO targetted towards young children, not a bad thing.

Originally posted by Thillian

 

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by Adamantine

An a huge title, too.

AFAIK WoW and Vanguard both "only" had 30 Mio for their development.

 

 

Better double check your facts.  By all accounts WOW's initial release cost roughly 75M to develop and far more has gone into it since.  (not that they can't afford it)

Can't see 40M going into just LotRO expansions, but if so maybe Turbine's going to "NGE-it" and give it a major overall haul (such as adding meaningful pvp) to try and increase the player base.

 

WoW was 80$mil development & 40$mil marketing.

 

I believe the 40$ mil is going for Asheron's Call 3.

$120 million to make WoW?  That would make it 4 times more than the most expensive MMO which handn't been released yet.  Even Blizzard didn't think WoW would be that successful based on how overwhelmed the servers where.

On topic I had heard that EA owned the rights to make any Harry Potter MMO in another thread.  A few people were talking about it when Bioware was bought out and speculations about harry potter were being tossed around.

And a time warner IP?  AOL the MMO!!!!!!! 

Originally posted by GreenChaos

And a time warner IP?  AOL the MMO!!!!!!! 

Would "You've got mail" be the level up sound?

Ugh, couldn't they have given it to a developer that has a clue how to make endgame content and even decent PvP?

/cry

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Originally posted by Qmire
Blizzard's initial budget funds for their upcoming mmo is at 150M(or was it 250M?), well they got the money to spend it and more if they wish, since their cash cow is still unstoppable.
Anyway that's quite interesting having TW invest in Turbine. But only 40M ain't much when you compare today's mmorpg's, which by now needs to deliver a lot more than they used to.

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I don't think that Blizzard will have any Money issues on the upcoming MMORPG they can open hands and Activision+Vivendi throw it at them xD. But i don't think they need any outside support anyway.

Although I would hope they plan to create a new game with their own IP, my best guess is that this investment represents Turbine making their current games available to the console market.  If they go for all of the platforms at once, they make a coup and get their feet in the door of consoles as mmo platforms while that market area is still pretty virgin territory.

Their existing games are rock solid, and would have really broad appeal to a new gaming market, especially if they are really one of the few outfits offering to all of the consoles.  Worth investing in if you want to see a relatively quick return on your investment instead of waiting 4 years for the cha-ching.

I hope I'm wrong, but...we shall see.

Originally posted by logicbox9

Originally posted by Jirel

 

Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by Adamantine

An a huge title, too.

AFAIK WoW and Vanguard both "only" had 30 Mio for their development.

 

 

Better double check your facts.  By all accounts WOW's initial release cost roughly 75M to develop and far more has gone into it since.  (not that they can't afford it)

Can't see 40M going into just LotRO expansions, but if so maybe Turbine's going to "NGE-it" and give it a major overall haul (such as adding meaningful pvp) to try and increase the player base.

 

 

Your comment about adding meaningful pvp to LoTRO just proves that you don't understand the game or the limitations of their liscense.  As they have said MANY TIMES on thier boards, The Tolkien family who control the liscense will not allow any PVP other than the monster PVP.

Just so you know, you're wrong. The family has no say... they own the rights to the Similarrion and the history of middle earth series or w/e... JRR sold off the rights years ago to a guy named Sal, who operates under the name Tolkien Enterprises.

If JRR himself actually sold the rights then he sold them to someone he KNEW would keep them to his personal standards.  The man had a very strict Christian background and would never have okayed any type of people playing the "bad guys".

Originally posted by GreenChaos

And a time warner IP?  AOL the MMO!!!!!!! 

It would be funny as hell to hear in the “you got mail” voice, “you got ganked”

I see now that JRR sold the rights to United Artists in the 1960s and Zaentz aquired the rights in the 1970s. (http://www.xenite.org/faqs/lotr_movie/news_0000/486.html).  Still, there is no question but that Zaentz has kept a close hand on the way LoTRO is protrayed.  I know that in producing the LoTR card game, Decipher had to send every card to Tolkien Enterprises to get their approval of the cards (I can't link to that, this was information told to the product champions (Riders) in emails.)  When they changed the cards as the result of testing, they often had to send them back TO Tolkien Enterprises to get them improved.  It resulted in some interesting times trying to get everything okayed in time for release.

Honestly, I would like to see them add more solo/PvP based server or an expansion pack for solo/PvP.

Although.. AC3 would be awesome..

Think the bigger point is, Turbine is becoming renowned as the top mmo developer in the United States .

Originally posted by solareus

Think the bigger point is, Turbine is becoming renowned as the top mmo developer in the United States .

Mythic..