Age of Conan

just coz the game is not sandbox every one thinks its crap or some thing
cant a game be different for ones i have not played it but would love to just try it out just to see what i think.

but come on ppl if you dont like the game dont play the dam thing no one is making you i dont like wow but i dont bash the game its just not for me

Originally posted by Nikoz78

 

Originally posted by Umbral

 Yes, you still wrong about the musical aspect, the fact you have a lot of mp3 files in your HD doesnt change that.

When you said you are over 30s and not a sheep, showing how you are different from people that playes AoC ( or WoW )  showed arrogance.

But the only thing that is important about the game is , your quote about AoC and consoles was wrong and was based in a lie.

I don't simply have a bunch of mp3's, I have entire discographies. Just give it a rest.

 

The only reason I mentioned my age is because some dude insinuated that I was in grade school and trying to be anti-society (which I'm not).

And if you don't realize that this game is designed for consoles... damn. It's clear to everyone.

And please point out how I was "showing arrogance." This one I still don't understand. The same dude called me a "sheep" I did not drop that term, he did.

Hmm... do you think I was being arrogant because I said AOC is not a true MMORPG and that WoW ruined our genera? If thats it (?) I'd like to point out that just because you play and pay for an on-line game - it has nothing to do with you personally because you did not design the game. I fail to see where you're coming from on that point.

Anyway.

Ok, I will give it a rest and I really dont want to be offencive, but I think you understand why I was against your musical/mmo analogy. It just didnt made any sense use pop music to go against pop music.

The game is designed for players, if you think AoC is a console game, you may think DDO, Guild Wars and EQ2 are console games. ( you know why  )

AoC doesnt have the main feature console players love, real time combat... and we still dont know how the 360 version will be.

No, your opinion about WoW and AoC is your opinion, the arrogance is in the way you showed your opinion thinking these games and its players are shallow and less deeper than you or the game you like.

AoC is not the game for you, as WoW is not the game for me, I can agree with that, but a misinformed changed interview and a  elitist posture ( with no fundation) are not necessary good ways to show your opinion.

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I really thought WoW would be the most dumbed down mmorpg i ever played but somehow Funcom has beaten them with AOC.  This is just about the easiest mmorpg ever made.  I sure hope we move back towards old school mmorpg at some point and not handing you everything without any challenge.

Originally posted by aleos

 

Originally posted by Umbral

 

Originally posted by aleos

Personaly i think WoW ruined what MMO's are today. That is my opinion.

 

 

Why?

 

 

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Because it set somewhat of a "standard" For some reason people think that a game must be like WoW now in order for it to be acceptable. And if not that just about any game realeased today is apparently a "WoW clone" due to the fact it was released after WoW. Plus WoW being as popular as it is and that being a Majority of peoples first MMO ever, it's almost like the MMO community is being polluted with uneducated RPG players.

yes WOW, and EQ2 where the ones to start the sillyness we have now.

Originally posted by Nikoz78

This game was admittedly designed for gaming consoles and is therefore a watered down version of a true MMORPG.

AOC lead developer:

"we designed AoC to be a console game from the beginning"

"AoC's combat system has gone through nine iterations throughout Funcom's quest to make it appealing to console users."

link

It's worth as an "MMO" should not even be seriously debated considering this very clear truth.

Further, this game in my opinion has the potential to damage the overall genera, bringing the core of what an MMO is to new lows.

Please don't misunderstand me; I'm not trying to attack anyone personally. I'm trying to point out that the sole reason this corporation (Funcom) made this game is to try and tap into a bigger market. In other words they are exploiting our genera for financial gains and we as MMO gamers should consider the damage it has the potential to cause to it.

Again, I'm not attacking anyone personally but consider the damage World of Warcraft has caused. It was such a hit ($$$) that every other, more complex MMO tried to emulate it. In effect, dumbing down the genera.

I like to compare World of Warcraft to pop music because pop music is very shallow and easy to understand and (admittedly) fun to listen to, and it out sells all other styles of music (by a large margin).

Pop music has damaged other styles of music, like country music (which today is candyass pop-fluff w/ no soul), ditto pop punk rock and nu metal.

It is in this way that these watered down MMO's are going to damage our genera. You can say that it does not matter, that it's just another duck on the pond - but I respectfully disagree.

In fact, I've lost much hope for the genera. These corporations ruin everything. Music is milked ruthlessly and turned into shallow trends, punk fashion is sold in mass chain stores like Hot Topic, it never ends.

They destroy the essence of whatever it is they are trying to exploit-for-profit.

MMORPG's are no exception.

I'm out.

Well I think you are worried about the inevitable. Times change and always will. I played Star Wars Galaxies from launch until the NGE. I loved the game,but then came WoW and I loved it as well (its not a perfect game but it is a good game). The entire game industry is about making money,and so is the movie and music industry. I do not blame Funcom for trying to tap into the console market its a very lucritive market indeed. The console market also makes it easier for game companies to develop their games for.I am not worried in the least by this because I see the benefits it could bring to the table. Better games with less bugs,and as they develop more for this generation the better they will get. I do not care to play AOC it does not appeal to me at all. The entire instancing thing turns me off at the git go,But I am not goin to bash the game or its players because I do not like it. The only way I will ever play a console again is if they do get some good mmos out on them,until then I will stay with PC.

Originally posted by aleos

 

Originally posted by Umbral

 

Originally posted by aleos

Personaly i think WoW ruined what MMO's are today. That is my opinion.

 

 

Why?

 

 

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Because it set somewhat of a "standard" For some reason people think that a game must be like WoW now in order for it to be acceptable. And if not that just about any game realeased today is apparently a "WoW clone" due to the fact it was released after WoW. Plus WoW being as popular as it is and that being a Majority of peoples first MMO ever, it's almost like the MMO community is being polluted with uneducated RPG players.

Well, I agree with some of your points, but this is not a WoW issue

This is a MMORPG community issue, people dont like games anymore, and we can see it here.

After WoW we had DDO, Vanguard, AoC, Guild Wars etc  ... All of them arent similar to WoW, well, you can see some common points, but it is just because they are all MMORPGs.

There are a lot more Lineage 2 clones than WoW.

But it is always funny when people think Everquest and UO were perfect and everything now is a wow clone and a silly game, and I dont understand why these people dont play Everquest or UO anymore... because the only good EQ and UO are the original ones? I think most of these players are lost in memories.

The only thing we can blame WoW is for letting everyone experience what is a MMO, not because it is better or easier, but because it is popular..

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I dont play UO and EQ anymore because I made the mistake of stopping play.  I was hoping to find something even better which utilized better graphics, engines etc.  I cant imagine going back to UO now and starting over. 

Regardless, I am not the ones who are critical of the developers for creating games that sell in today's market.  I will simply sit back and wait until I find something that suits me.

Indeed..the day of Hyrule Online is upon us...or Mushroom Kingdom!?