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Polyformist  5/29/08 12:17:37 PM

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Crafting = seems to be a WIN for WAR!

Crafting system seems trivial compaired to a game such as Vanguard, but at the same time,  I like the idea of not wasting equal amounts of time on crafting as I do on adventuring!

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mcharj11  5/29/08 12:23:19 PM

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Originally posted by altairzq

Guys... crafting is almost exactly like WOW. I know I will be flamed because of this, but it's the naked truth. Big disappointment and a sad surprise... couldn't they make something better? God...

WoW is recipe based and WAR is not recipe based and somehow according to you they both use the exact same crafting system...

 
kegtap  5/29/08 12:24:22 PM

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Liking the crafting system myself. Seems balanced with only having one gathering skill. you will always need gathering items from other players.

 
jzuska  5/29/08 12:33:25 PM

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10 man Arthas? No thanks.

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Acesplayed  5/29/08 1:55:04 PM

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Here to end your arguments.

Since the game is not gear based it would be pointless to make weapons and armor nobody needs because they probably already have better armor from RvR or whatever you craft isnt going to be much better then what anyone has. Weapons and armor would require  some type of gathering I think as well and Mythic doesnt want people going around gathering ores for pointless weapons and armor  instead of  fighting.




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Khrymson  5/29/08 1:57:52 PM

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Originally posted by Acesplayed

Since the game is not gear based it would be pointless to make weapons and armor nobody needs because they probably already have better armor from RvR or whatever you craft isnt going to be much better then what anyone has. Weapons and armor would require  some type of gathering I think as well and Mythic doesnt want people going around gathering ores for pointless weapons and armor  instead of  fighting.

I concur, would rather not see a craft for those added!  I'd rather see a cool wep or piece of gear on a boss and be like I want that...so you gotta kill him for it instead of spending pointless time harvesting nodes of ore!

elvenangel  5/29/08 2:11:24 PM

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Why So Serious?

 

Originally posted by altairzq
Originally posted by TheSheikh

 

Originally posted by altairzq

Lets see, you can have one gathering skill and one crafting skill max... where did I see this.. oh yes WOW, only they allow you to have two gathering or two crafting, so they were even ahead of WAR 4 years ago!

Limiting the player to one of each is good for the game economy because it forces the player to trade for the resources that cannot be harvested. Regardless, the idea of crafting and gathering was in no way created by WoW. 

Then.. i can extract magic from items and get magical essence! My god this is brillilant! Yes like in WOW. But, really, what can be better than extracting magic from the items. I'm sure I can't think of a better way. Oh yes I can, if I spend a couple of days thinking about it, but hey, if WOW has it and it works, why should I???

What makes you think Blizzard thought up the idea of magic items being dechanted into essences and shards?

But wait.. they don't have recepies, this is so great, you will get everything from the trainers. So it's a simplification of WOW system. This is so INNOVATIVE. These guys really earn they money, they are awsome thinkers!

You seem to have misunderstood, you get things such as basic seeds and tools from the trainers (most likely not a trainer but a merchant). More important ingredients are obtained through killing, looting, and scavenging. (Edit: aka. Gathering)

Now it's very clear WAR = WOW2

 

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Well I didn't say the idea of crafting and gathering was created by WOW.  I also didn't say Blizzard thought up the idea of disenchanting, I said it is in WOW. They are doing something almost exactly as WOW. I knew they wanted to do the nex WOW but I thought they'd be more talented to create something innovative. So far we have BG with steroids and a simplified WOW crafting system. Great.


ROFL! ...... ROFL Your idiocy astounds me most of the time but today you cracked me up...Who the mother flip cares what game had disenchant the hell first.  It makes sense to have it in order to make magical items ... Your skimming along the surface grabbing lil bits and peices and goinG OMG WOW when in actuality its nothing the hell like WoW.  You can't make an MMO without seeing something reminiscent of another game..when I look at AoC I see tons of Shadowbane & WoW elements..when I see WoW i see tons of EQ1 elements.    When i look at WAR I see elements all across the board from EQ1, to DAoC, to yes even WoW.   Thats how games work..thats how they've always worked.   There is no such thing as a game that has every single element 100 percent unique and new...not since the days of Pong have we seen that. 

 

The last line of your post alone in red proves how much of a Troll or just a spitiful lil trouble maker you are I haven't decided yet.  WoW crafting is all about patterns if you have a pattern you can make an item just fill int he slots...you can't do that in WAR..in war you have no idea what your going to get period.   You can't get anymore simple than WoW...WoW's crafting is the epitome of simple crafting its why most hard core crafters went to EQ2 in the beginning.  Theidea that WAR is even a BG on steroisd is even funnier...please...just stop posting Altair...your wasting your time and ours.

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Polyformist  5/29/08 2:11:59 PM

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 I am rather confused about this Not Gear Based comment.  Lets over analys this for just a moment,  I need help understanding this comment, as it seems to be false.

#1. I have heard DEV's comment on players being "RVR Equiped and PVE Equiped" <-- is this not gear?

#2. Trinkets and such are items you may be awarded, and talismans are customisable with stats!  Aren't these "GEAR"??

#3. Has anyone actually played an MMO that wasn't gear based?  You certainly don't see a naked dude owning a fully equiped dude in any game!

 When I see someone say war is not gear based, I think I must be miss-understanding the meaning of the word "GEAR".  I understood "GEAR" as anything you were not born with.  AKA your pants, glasses, shirt, and knecklass would all be gear. 

So I leave this to be discussed.......Allot....because I will bet I will never see a Naked character in a battle. ;-)

 

Of Coarse, I have been proven wrong in the past!

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elvenangel  5/29/08 2:16:37 PM

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Why So Serious?

They mean its not 100 percent Gear Based....like someone in uber rific gear doesn't just automatically own everyone..he has a 'slight' advantage but if he's a poor player someone in slightly more standard gear could probably take him.     The game is based around group mechanics..there won't be any 100 percent uber pwns all classes unless its heavily unbalanced.

See games that are 'gear based' are usually 100 percent about gear at all times...they've already stated numerous times that Gear is not the overwhelming factor to a win...skill, how you set up your tactical & morale abilites, and of course strategic thought will have an over whelming factor to a win in a battle for their side.

Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

Polyformist  5/29/08 2:24:21 PM