Same argument for why things that were deemed acceptable 20 years ago are now deemed unacceptable.

With respect to gaming in society, 20 years ago it was at the start of a growth curve. techology was low and games were simple crafted affairs that were the bedroom based toys of a quiet and young culture.

That generation has grown and are adults, still passionate about a massive media phenomenum and revenue making industry that demand more from their chosen entertainment. I dont want to play Pac man and Pyjamara any more. I want adult games with serious themes. i want Deux Ex storylines over Leisure Suit Larry.

The industry will respond beacuse the adults have the cash, this generation of gaming adults is largely the original customer base and we pass that down to our kids.

I want the industry to allow me thought proking adult content - its my job to police what my children are exposed to in the same as it is for drugs and alcohol. Will I shield them from everything? No, and in some ways it would be harmful to do so. But I will not blame the industry for corruptng the next generation just because it will try to naturally cater to the widest player base possible.

You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.

Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.

What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.

Totally agree with last post.

The ills of society have always been present but todays media just enables you to be far more aware of them and their profiliation.

Dont be scraed shitless, be thankful you are better informed and therefore better armed to make decisions that match your principle

Originally posted by Xasapis

You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.

Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.

What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.

I never once said in any of my posts that i ASSUME or that life was in better shape then than now so please dont try and tell people I did.

Sex in the media was censored for one reason and one reason alone....those who we're deemed mature enough to deal with watch they were watching/playing could do so within the law....i'm talking about 18 certificate 20 years ago.

18 years old, we're still maturing but and more cabable of dealing with topics like this that when we were 15....most anyways...but media influence as such are now throwing things like sex and violence into our youths faces and forcing them to accept it as the norm to which we and the laws will adapt to and make it the norm...for what reason?

There is no god damn reason except to exploit and make money.

were allready half way there, too many immature people having to deal with things that they should not have to deal with at thier age

Originally posted by Xasapis

You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.

Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.

What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.

Its also in the eye of the beholder. Many schools teach how civilized the romans where. Actually the celtics had a much more advanced culture then the romans. Celtics had laws of protection of old people and children while the romans just have thrown their unwanted babies onto the waste dump. Celtic womans have been equal while the roman womens have been house pets.

The modern western world is much more "roman"then "celtic". Thats why i think thibgs have been better :) Its not that i really care, but i just inserted DVD2 and the installation takes ages. Cant wait to patch for another few hours :P

http://emoorangesmovie.ytmnd.com/

Originally posted by Praetoriani

 

Originally posted by Ichben

 

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

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Originally posted by Ichben

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Originally posted by rshandlon

 

One of the best examples of Sarcasm I have ever seen. to the OP, you get a +10 interweb points for this post. Seeing all the lamers coming here and posting how the game sucks so much after playing it for a few hours has been a total joke and I love how the OP has taken it and made fun of those threads in the best way possible.

Anyone who thinks this was a serious thread really needs to step back and take a breather for once.

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Rshandlon I was not trying to be sarcastic nor was I trying to be funny. I was serial when I said that the community broke my heart. I was also serial when I said the boobs made me angry.
You sir are a troll and if you continue to be a troll I will have to report you and have you banned from this forum for not taking me serially. Is that clear young man. IS THAT CLEAR YOU MEANY!!!!!
Ichben Einberliner

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It's KingCarebear in disguise, the first give away is the name changing on the bottom of each post. Either way it was a good laugh.

HasBrick, I am not KingCarebear. I have no idea where you got that idea from. But it is WAY OFF!!! Don't get me wrong. I am flattered that you would think I was the great KingCarebear. I really am.

 

I look up to him. He's like a father to me and I will always love him. He will always be my "true" daddy.

Ichy

 

What happened to the Crimson King?

Oh Geez Praetoriani, why'd you have to bring him up??? *sigh*

The Crimson King is indeed my father, but he is a bad father, a mean father, a nasty father. He never knew the face of his father and he never will. He never loved me and I never loved him. The only man I truely care for, the only man I truely love. Is the one, the only, KingCarebear. He in my eyes, is my TRUE father. He in my eyes is the father I never had.

The Red Daddy is still around, he is still walking and he is still breathing. And yet, to my dismay, he is still bad and he is still mad. May the gods have mercy on my soul. And his as well, if he even has one. :-(

Ichben

Originally posted by eugam

 

Originally posted by Xasapis

You assume that 20 years earlier morality was in better shape than it is today, which I disagree. It's like those grandparents of every generation talking about how things in their own time were so much better. Which they were not. Lets face it, the corruption was there, it just had a different face.

Besides, I'm not all that sure that 20-30 years ago people were better than what we are today. It's more like we're coming out of the dark ages into enlightment in a lot of things.

What changed from the past is the exposure to more information. We are just more aware of the world around us and we will be more aware in the future.

You may be right in the big picture (from babylon till today) But there always have been tops and lows. Right now we are goind downhill and things have been better as far as i can remember personally (which is half a century ;) ).

 

 

Its also in the eye of the beholder. Many schools teach how civilized the romans where. Actually the celtics had a much more advanced culture then the romans. Celtics had laws of protection of old people and children while the romans just have thrown their unwanted babies onto the waste dump. Celtic womans have been equal while the roman womens have been house pets.

 

The modern western world is much more "roman"then "celtic". Thats why i think thibgs have been better :) Its not that i really care, but i just inserted DVD2 and the installation takes ages. Cant wait to patch for another few hours :P

Ichben

Originally posted by Ichben

I'm sorry guys, I had to do it. I had to leave the game. I had to cancel my subscription because the game just wasn't for me. I couldn't take the eye candy. I couldn't stand the boobs looking at me, staring at me, enticing me to play with them. Enticing me to love them. I do not like being mocked and those nasty little booblets were mocking me and I couldn't take it.

I could not stand the blood and the gore. It was too much for me. It was too much for my soul. I love the color purple but I hate the color red and Age of Conan was filled with red. It was filled with gore. It was filled with sadness and it was filled with tears.

And than there was the community. Those people were so mean to me. Espically the kids. Who would have thought the sweet little kiddies could be so cruel and have such foul mouths. They called me all kinds of names. One even told me to go play in traffic, can you believe that?!?! I thought this would be a place where I could make friends but after a few hours of in game play, I was sadly mistaken. Nobody would listen to me. Nobody wanted to talk or share. All they wanted to do was kill stuff, while beating their chest to prove their manliness in battle. All I wanted to do in game was help people. I wanted to form friendships and bonds that would last for a very long time. Sadly I do not think this will ever happen. And with a heavy heart. I must say my goodbyes.

My only hope is that in another world and another time I will have my place in the spotlight. My time to shine will be soon and it will be glorious. In the meantime I must continue my quest for that next big thing. Someday I will find my perfect game and my perfect game will find me. And than, I will be happy. I will be free. I will be loved. Farewell my friends....I love you all.

Ichben Einberliner

 

Sarcasm score 10/10 I can't wait to play, soon as I upgrade my rig..

How many people do you know that watch or play films or games intended for older people? I bet everyone on this forum watched an 18 certificate film when they were between 12 - 16.... and I bet most of you would argue that its ok but thats what I'd expect from someone whos has become exploted and honestly believes its the norm.....and comptly missing the point of its an 18 certificate for a reason.

Wrong!  When I was a kid it was PG, R or X.  I saw R rated films when I was around 17 or so - in the company of my mother.  I didn't see what would be termed an X rated film until I was in my 30s, don't have any need for it.  So much for your porn desensitization. Some people sneak in, some don't.  The ones that do happen to show up more online.