Age of Conan

Originally posted by JackBauer24

 

Originally posted by Tridian

so whats wrong? I'm not quite sure what your upset about. Is it the numbers?

yes I am very pissed off about the numbers.  Let me ask you something.  When a developer says one thing and then totally changes it does that not tick you off? 

 

 

At the start they said massive siege battles.  48vs48 is not even a siege its a joke.  Thats more like a tactical mission than a huge battle.  Thats why I am pissed

When its in development....no.  If its in the middle of a live game progression...yes.  This was still in development when they made those changes. It sucks; but Im not pissed at them for not being able to effectively achieve what they wanted

Originally posted by Raston

But take note, nothing is saying that 48/48 is where it will stay, that is just its initial setting, as they get more 'testing' in on the seige mechanics and how well it is working, that number could go up and I would rather they start low and work their way up than to come out and say seiges are 200v200 and have to cut it back after launch.

I have a feeling this is the reason for the low 48/48 cap. They want to make sure that it works, that the performance people are getting is good enough and that it doesn't lag the server to death. Raising the cap later on should be a simple affair. Repairing the reputation of sieges being a lagfest because they started out with a cap of 100/100 would be much much harder. Oh, and when they do raise the cap, they can make a big deal out of it and get some promotion.

I'm not defending FC, but remember that they never showed a siege with actual players.  Every video they showed was just a bunch of NPCs and it never looked all that massive or epic TBH.  FC has been talking from the begining and showing very little.  Its the reason I never believed a single thing they've said because they never backed up anything. 

"Siege warfare was brought into Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures because Funcom as developers wanted to give players that epic feeling of being part of a large-scale battle. We have all watched movies like Braveheart, 300, Kingdom of Heaven – all these epic battle movies – and we realized how amazing it would be to bring that into a massive online game. So we did, naturally."

"Head out to the Border Kingdom with your guild, or hire yourself out for pay, and wage epic battles for control of player-owned battlekeeps."

..."so Funcom knew that we had to give even the lone wolves of Hyboria the opportunity to satisfy their thirst for large-scale, epic battles."

http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=online&utm_campaign=Clan_of_Conan&utm_content=Issue_10&func=publish.show&table=CONTENT&func_id=1923

Some quotes I compiled on the site of Age of Conan about PvP.  I may be stupid, but I don't recall having seen an epic battle with 48vs48 before.  If you have please tell me. 

considering the combat system and that pvp siege is basically just a castle siege, 48vs48 doesnt sound so bad. and least it isnt mindless lotro crap or wow bg bs.

if FC has designed the system correctly (eg. nice benefits for capturing halls,etc) then it could actually end up being more decent than most of the crap that is out atm.

Originally posted by JackBauer24

"Siege warfare was brought into Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures because Funcom as developers wanted to give players that epic feeling of being part of a large-scale battle. We have all watched movies like Braveheart, 300, Kingdom of Heaven – all these epic battle movies – and we realized how amazing it would be to bring that into a massive online game. So we did, naturally."

"Head out to the Border Kingdom with your guild, or hire yourself out for pay, and wage epic battles for control of player-owned battlekeeps."

..."so Funcom knew that we had to give even the lone wolves of Hyboria the opportunity to satisfy their thirst for large-scale, epic battles."

http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=online&utm_campaign=Clan_of_Conan&utm_content=Issue_10&func=publish.show&table=CONTENT&func_id=1923

Some quotes I compiled on the site of Age of Conan about PvP.  I may be stupid, but I don't recall having seen an epic battle with 48vs48 before.  If you have please tell me. 

 

Doesn t happen because it isn t epic. It s sad and the only feature i cared about is now just a limited BG. I know you ll hear oh but with the graphics so high it would suck if there were more. I can t believe anyone would accept this as good.

Good luck trying to get more than 96 people in a single battle area working at at the same time.

In EVE, it's a complete slideshow.

Incidentally, please post some proof that Funcom ever said anyting other than 48x48.

"It s sad and the only feature i cared about is now just a limited BG."

limited mentality. BGs have a specific design and purpose. designed in a different manner an instance, even when it is limited to 48vs48 for the time being, is no longer a BG.

it seems more like a castlesiege ala Total War than AV for example

Originally posted by Leucent

Originally posted by ShneakyOne

In Guildwars, the 8v8 guild battles were epic enough. There was ALOT going on with those 16 players, and it was incredibly fast paced. 48v48 is going to be fucking incredible.... guarenteed no one has seen battles on epic proportions like this before.... save for Shadowbane....

You have got to be kidding me right? 96 people total is so far from epic it s not even funny. I ve said it before i ve been in battles in DAOC wellpassed 300 people and very little lag. All these people that think 96 people in siege battles are epic actually blow my mind.

   amen

Originally posted by sskk

"It s sad and the only feature i cared about is now just a limited BG."

limited mentality. BGs have a specific design and purpose. designed in a different manner an instance, even when it is limited to 48vs48 for the time being, is no longer a BG.

it seems more like a castlesiege ala Total War than AV for example

How is this limited mentality? It is a total of 96 people period. In your words BG s have a specific design and purpose, well limiting it to 48 vs 48 is their design and purpose to make it playable. I could care less what crap they come up with that it s the graphics etc. It has to be the most static system i ve seen. Let me guess if they said no it s not 96 it s capped at 300 all of a sudden everyone that said no it s good to cap it at 48 vs 48 for performance reasons would change your tune. I mean come on, i m