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Jetsonix  5/23/08 8:00:19 AM

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Case in point...Age of Conan Online.   Look at all the instancing going on.  Just like Guild Wars you got instances being shoved down your throat at every turn which takes away from the ONE WORLD ONE SERVER holy grail that was originally intended to begin with

People, what happened?  How did we come to this?  You mean to tell me we STILL do not have the technology to get EVERYBODY on one server and one map?  Of course we do not, can you imagine 15,000 people standing in front of one NPC asking for a quest???

So, to sum up...MMO is really a pipe dream.  There never was a holy grail , never was the reality of everybody playing together on one server,  ONE SERVER and EVERYONE there at SAME TIME

No sorry, sadly it was all a pipe dream and we all are relegated to this....INSTANCING.  MMO gaming is a joke and it always has been.

I feel like I am a million miles away from the real game while i am leveling up in Tortage City, the noobie island.  The immersion factor is NOT THERE.  Where is everybody else? I would like to know people that are playing in the real game are near me somewhere.  Where are they!!!!!!!!!!!!!???

To me this point is critical.  Fun Com blew it with the newbie zone.  My suggestion...STOP the game and reorganize the newbie zone so that it is on the same map as the real game, so we can run over and see high lvl players doing whatever. As it is now, there is no immersion into this supposedly huge game...only immersion i have received so far is being trapped inside a box

 

So go ahead and rationalize and tell me why everything is okay as it is, hehehe.  Make excuses for Age of Conan..can't wait to read your replies

Enjoy!

 

 
Housam  5/23/08 8:02:37 AM

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Originally posted by Jetsonix
Case in point...Age of Conan Online.   Look at all the instancing going on.  Just like Guild Wars you got instances being shoved down your throat at every turn which takes away from the ONE WORLD ONE SERVER holy grail that was originally intended to begin with
People, what happened?  How did we come to this?  You mean to tell me we STILL do not have the technology to get EVERYBODY on one server and one map?  Of course we do not, can you imagine 5,000 people standing in front of one NPC asking for a quest???
So, to sum up...MMO is really a pipe dream.  There never was a holy grail , never was the reality of everybody playing together on one server,  ONE SERVER and EVERYONE there at SAME TIME
No sorry, sadly it was all a pipe dream and we all are relegated to this....INSTANCING.  MMO gaming is a joke and it always has been
Enjoy!
 

instancing has been hapning for years...

its instances are nothing like guild wars

 
Xasapis  5/23/08 8:12:46 AM

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The OP is clearly uninformed on how zones instances are implemented in the games that use them (notably AO, EQ2, AoC).

The effect of them is also exagerated by the haters. So far noone on any server confirmed the existence of an instanced zone in areas outside the tutorial area (Tortage) and the starter cities. Not that it can't happen, but it's rare enough to not be visible so far.

So having the ability and using the ability to instance the zones is something different.

 
Batak_Killer  5/23/08 8:14:55 AM

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Something, something, something.... Dark Side!

Wow a first post and such a big issue, im stunned...

Back on topic.. You say aoc isnt an mmo because of all the instances. Lets sum it up:

MMORPG, or Massiveley Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game.

is it massive? Yes.

is it a multiplayer? Yes.

Is it Online? Yes.

is it Roleplaying? Yes.

and is it a Game? Well duh!

The problem you are having is that its not an open-world-where-everyone-are-on-the-same-server TYPE of mmo. I understand your problem believe me but its not a dealbreaker for me.... not in anyway... You should enjoy this game because of what it is and not because of something you thought it should have been... yes i know many of you are dissapointed because of "all the instances" but come on... so what? Im not gonna forfeit a fun game because i get a 5 secs loading screen every one hour... thats ridiculous.. 

 

 
Mordria  5/23/08 8:17:06 AM

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Originally posted by Jetsonix

Case in point...Age of Conan Online.   Look at all the instancing going on.  Just like Guild Wars you got instances being shoved down your throat at every turn which takes away from the ONE WORLD ONE SERVER holy grail that was originally intended to begin with

People, what happened?  How did we come to this?  You mean to tell me we STILL do not have the technology to get EVERYBODY on one server and one map?  Of course we do not, can you imagine 5,000 people standing in front of one NPC asking for a quest???

So, to sum up...MMO is really a pipe dream.  There never was a holy grail , never was the reality of everybody playing together on one server,  ONE SERVER and EVERYONE there at SAME TIME

No sorry, sadly it was all a pipe dream and we all are relegated to this....INSTANCING.  MMO gaming is a joke and it always has been

Enjoy!

 

It's not mmorps  (s being server) It's mmorpg. 

you can try to figure out what the "g" is on your own :p

 
Dynamo112  5/23/08 8:20:37 AM

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Just wait a few more years. Quantum PCs will make all your gaming dreams a reality! 

 
Jetsonix  5/23/08 8:27:03 AM

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You all making excuses for the MMO failure to deliver...in fact it was NEVER delivered.  So over time.... we have accepted things as they are and they BLOW, ....Massively Blow

You all RATIONALIZING

 

 
Xasapis  5/23/08 8:32:42 AM

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Oh, it delivered all right. So much that Blizzard had to make a statement on a graphics engine update (finally) for the expansion coming after the Lich King (too late?).

 
Draccan  5/23/08 8:32:53 AM

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Originally posted by Jetsonix

Case in point...Age of Conan Online.   Look at all the instancing going on.  Just like Guild Wars you got instances being shoved down your throat at every turn which takes away from the ONE WORLD ONE SERVER holy grail that was originally intended to begin with

People, what happened?  How did we come to this?  You mean to tell me we STILL do not have the technology to get EVERYBODY on one server and one map?  Of course we do not, can you imagine 5,000 people standing in front of one NPC asking for a quest???

So, to sum up...MMO is really a pipe dream.  There never was a holy grail , never was the reality of everybody playing together on one server,  ONE SERVER and EVERYONE there at SAME TIME

No sorry, sadly it was all a pipe dream and we all are relegated to this....INSTANCING.  MMO gaming is a joke and it always has been

Enjoy!

 

Even if your post is trollish in nature I agree with some of your points.

AoC has created a wonderful semi singleplayer game with Tortage level 1-20. While it is nicely done, it breaks immersion and the mmo feeling. Zones as such are not great. I remember being in White Isles and having to change instances to meet with a couple of guild mates.

Also it poses problems with one starter area like this. For me the "roleplay" part of it dies when all characters created have the same background story. And when you want an alt or change your main you have to redo the same stuff over and over.

AoC is fun for me right now, but I doubt its longevity. While fun at the moment I can't say for sure it will be fun a few months from now.

Essentially AoC = WoW 2.0. They copied everything from green, blue items; raid centric; battlegrounds; zones work pretty much the same except the potential to split up into different instances (epic and normal for example. They also include a totally same talent system.

I have played many mmos and I know WoW wasn't the first to include these things. But AoC has copied so much I wanna puke. Sure they graphics are better, the music is fantastic, but essentially is still WoW 2.0 when you remove the skin. It will be fun for a while, but I think it will lose something over time as the game is too much of the same old.

The zones are smaller in AoC too.

It remains to be seen how fun it will be, but if this becomes yet another raidfest or if sieges will be limited to a few, few people, or not fun, then I will leave the game...

For now I have fun as it is though a strong feeling of deja vu...

 

 

 

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Bakoryo  5/23/08 8:33:22 AM