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ummax 5/20/08 1:17:11 AM
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IN 2003! Being a programmer and understanding the pressure you get from publishers to ship, I'm pretty laid back about the in-game bugs. They're paying a lot of attention to them and eventually I think things will be stable. I'm liking it a lot so far, but for some players the "just out of the oven" issues may be a big turnoff. " |
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RayRay77 5/20/08 1:27:07 AM
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Joined: 5/02/08
I am Sam''s liver. |
It's a testament to just how awesome the original game was that even with all those bugs it was the best mmorpg I've ever played.
This tactic doesn't really work because every vet I know admits that there bugs and problems with the original game. Our contention is that if SOE had just buckled down and fixed those issues instead of completely changing the game they would have held on to their current customers and added many more.
And aren't you the guy who just can't understand why people are arguing about a game that hasn't existed for three years? Why are you making posts like this? |
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keltic1701 5/20/08 4:40:01 AM
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Joined: 5/04/05
Happiness can be found, even in the darkest of times, if one only remembers to turn on the light. |
Even with all the problems that the OP states, pre-CUNGE SWG was a far, far better game than the current version. The fact that even after 3 years people are still nostalgic for an "unfinished, buggy game" is testament to the potential of SWG. But The Powers That Be decided to scrap the whole system rather than fix the problems of the original and it blew up in their collective faces. Can't say I feel sorry for any one of them. They got what they deserved. |
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kefkah 5/20/08 8:06:19 AM
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Hard Core Member
Joined: 9/22/04
Foramu Otaku |
Scoreboard. PreCU: 200,000+ NGE: Under 50,000 (I had my coffee and felt generous). From these numbers, many conclusions can be drawn and further questions raised. One of which is that if PreCU was so bad, laggy and unplayable - how could that many people keep playing it? And next question, if it was that unplayable - how could I have kept playing it?
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Suvroc 5/20/08 8:44:37 AM
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Joined: 1/09/07 |
Yep, SWG was originally released far too early. But so was the NGE. The only difference is "potential" was a word thrown around quite a bit in those early days. |
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Thunderous 5/20/08 9:09:58 AM
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Joined: 2/28/08 |
Thanks ummax, You did a great job reinforcing how damn good the original version of this game was. Despite all of the bugs, the early release, and all the issues, it had the greatest and most loyal playerbase of all time. A lot of us are re-uniting in Age of Conan today, while you will sit here and play a dead game, with no depth, no soul, and with THE SAME BUGS and LESS fun. You try to attack us all the time and question our sanity, have fun being 1 of 75 people on your server. No doubt that half of the remaining fools that pay for SWG will be going to AoC as well. |
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Stanford 5/20/08 11:26:28 AM
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Joined: 5/16/08 |
Nice try OP , here some reviews you should look into , 2003
GamePro 100%
GameNow 100%
"One of the great things about this MMORPG is that it's just massive. [Grade = A+]"
Game Informer 95%
"The development team has put together a diamond in Galaxies that surpassed my lofty expectations. In short, even if this game had nothing to do with "Star Wars" whatsoever, it would still be amazing. [June 2003, p.115]"
Cheat Code Central 80%
"Skills are easy to pick up but very difficult to master. This frustration may lead a lot of players to just pick up their lasers and start blasting. At least it feels like your doing something. But it all gets incredibly repetitive if you don’t level-up."
Gamer's Hell 78%
"The possibilities are not countless but so numerous that I doubt that more than a handful of selected SWG players could really name them all. But this is at the same time the game’s weakest point – the diversity and depth of gameplay you have to master to make any real progress is breathtaking in the beginning and maybe even too much."
PC Gamer 77%
"Galaxies has a few annoying aspects that seem endemic to MMORPGs - with tedious cross-country treks and features that are broken upon initial release - but it still delivers a lot of varied and innovative gameplay. [Oct 2003, p.92]"
GameSpy 75% "When it came time to score Galaxies, I initially thought of all the bugs and broken areas, the steep subscription fee and poor customer service, the often slow-paced gameplay and as-yet unrealized potential of the game. And yet, even with all these drawbacks, I find myself hooked -- there's fun to be had, if you're willing to dig through the frustrations."
ActionTrip 73 %
GMR Magazine 70%
"The whole game is a bit too complex for its own good - the skill system itself might put off those who have never played an MMORPG. [Oct 2003, p.71]"
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ummax 5/20/08 11:33:58 AM
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Joined: 12/16/06 |
Interesting aint it how most vets dont seem to be able to get their head around the fact that they played a bad game to start with and are basically accusing others of being idiots for playing something along the same lines when they did just the same thing. so in answer to your questions why make a post like this And in the other posts here is a revelation PEOPLE see WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE. In the present version you hate it so danged much you only SEE BAD and ignore good. In the past version YOU ONLY SAW GOOD and ignored THE BAD. You do the same things as the players who remain and play the game so dont be so hard on them. They are people too. Accept the fact that there are still people who enjoy the game for what it is now and dont get all bent out of shape for what it was once before! In other words stop putting players down because they enjoy a game you no longer enjoy!
*this is not the game your looking for* *move along move along*
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kefkah 5/20/08 1:19:23 PM
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Hard Core Member
Joined: 9/22/04
Foramu Otaku |
Originally posted by ummax As a personal rule, I like to hate the sin and not the sinner so to speak. While there may be some name calling from various persons - many of the posts I see here are reactive to claims or statements that generally hit a nerve. They attack those claims and then the ensuing fight seems to get personal at some point. And these attacks come from both sides as well. That being said, you provide one hand picked review and build your arument upon it like it is the truth. Again, there were responses to your initial post that came with their own bit of evidence. Personally, I was rather fond of the post with all of the OTHER reviews that for the most part praised PreCU. Bad game? Sorry, missed those terms in the reviews. I will be the first to claim it wasn't perfect but it sure was one of the best mmos I have ever played. No blinders on there. Simple truth in my world. Proof of that was in the amount of time and effort I devoted to it. And if you asked me my opinion of it back then, I would not have replied, "Its not bad..." as I have seen enough times on the NGE reviews by players. Quite frankly it was a better system and game than what currently exists on those sparsely populated servers. Your opinion may differ and say its the reverse. For you that may be the case. |
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TookyG 5/20/08 1:26:20 PM
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