Age of Conan

Originally posted by jusomdude

They didn't lie... maybe misjudged... they thought they could acheive a goal and didn't... you're telling me this has never happened to you?

Yes I agree.

But you can't tell me that 1 or 2 weeks ago they didn't know the feature was not ready? They were telling us "It will be in at launch, we don't want to put it into the beta now, we wan't to keep some "surprises" for launch.

And now they are talking about a world premiere as an August 25 "preview"  

As end of August will be a preview, will it be ready for Christmas?

And what about the early access, what about the sieges, etc..?

Originally posted by convict

This forum would make for a great study. As long as people get the carrot, that's all that matters to them.

I know it was suppossed to be an orange carrot, but blue is ok,. I know it was suppossed to be cooked, but as long as I get to taste it right now, I'll eat it uncooked.

I dont care that you told me it was orange and cooked, just as long as I can get it now.

I think you will find it's more a case of;

I didn't give much thought to DX10, I already have Vista and an 8800gts. I did not upgrade my machine or buy AoC for those specific features. Said features will be implemented in the near future which is fine by me, I have played many MMO over the years and understand the difficulties in implementing them and delivering everything that you would like to see in on release day.

I guess there are many people that share that sentiment. Those who didn't get into Early Access, or didn't get chosen for beta, have old PC's or severe technical issues are happy to exploit every possible press release, comment or remark from developers to substantiate their cries of being hoodwinked.

Bigwhatshisface was one of the above people, he didn't get EA, I think, and seems bitter about that fact. Other people will take the facts and decide for themselves, sure I do not pretend that some things have been changed from the original intentions but so far non have effected me personally.

We all knew the game would launch without DX10

We all knew the game would be launching without spellweaving (and it still is cause of borken animation)

And we all knew it would be launched without siege battle content.

This has been stated million times now.  Still the fanboys are so blind that they think "God"  (Funcom) can tell no lies. 

I have for the past month told ppl about this on this website.  If they were bying AOC it would not ship with things that were said to be in the game.  That doesn't mean the game is crap.  It just means that Funcom wasn't totally honest about things.   THey could have reported 2 months ago that DX10 would not launch with the game - considering that there are still at least 4 months left of work to get it into the game. 

But did Funcom say that ?   Nope.

Now the question only is - how much more of the things that were said to be ingame are not working or not yet implemented.  Raid content ?  Is it there - is it tested and is it balanced ? 

Same for cities. 

Originally posted by Alan0n

We all knew the game would launch without DX10

We all knew the game would be launching without spellweaving (and it still is cause of borken animation)

And we all knew it would be launched without siege battle content.

This has been stated million times now.  Still the fanboys are so blind that they think "God"  (Funcom) can tell no lies. 

I have for the past month told ppl about this on this website.  If they were bying AOC it would not ship with things that were said to be in the game.  That doesn't mean the game is crap.  It just means that Funcom wasn't totally honest about things.   THey could have reported 2 months ago that DX10 would not launch with the game - considering that there are still at least 4 months left of work to get it into the game. 

But did Funcom say that ?   Nope.

Now the question only is - how much more of the things that were said to be ingame are not working or not yet implemented.  Raid content ?  Is it there - is it tested and is it balanced ? 

Same for cities. 

Maybe then it would be wise of them to update their own website. Possible false advertising?

http://community.ageofconan.com/wsp/conan/frontend.cgi?func=publish.show&func_id=1089&table=PUBLISH&template=news_features_game&selected=1089

A World of Breathtaking Beauty

Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures features the groundbreaking graphics of our proprietary DreamWorld engine as well as advanced DirectX 10 support, ensuring the world of Hyboria is rich, lush, and vibrant.

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Personally i dont care, but still. That looks a bit silly now doesnt it?

Originally posted by BigMango

www.videogamer.com/news/19-05-2008-8332.html

Looks like Q3 / end of this year.

 

Do you guys remember open beta? This was what? 2 weeks ago? Funcom confirmed dx10 would be in at launch. It wasn't even in closed beta. They said they wanted to keep "surprises" for launch. So people went out and purchased dx10 cards (and vista and a new rig?).

This, just after the early access fiasco are some very shady marketing tactics. I thought Funcom was better than the lousy VG Sigil team, I was wrong. Just shows how to make big bucks hyping a game.

Well, at least the game is good. The question is, what else have they been hiding from us?

 

edit: here is an interesting today press release. The 111'000 collector edition boxes are sold out, 700'000 boxes are shipped to retailers for launch:

 

http://conanvault.ign.com/fullstory.php?id=41393

 

Why the referance to sigil , they never lied to anyone they had a open beta and told everyone , Sorry we ran out of money and this is the game we are releasing. Myself i respect them for doing that . Been playing vanguard sence day1 and will be for a long time to come .

Now funcom on the other hand isnt really lying am sure they tried as hard as they could to have DX 10 in at launch , they couldnt do it for whatever reason , no big deal really

Originally posted by nikoliath

 

Originally posted by convict

This forum would make for a great study. As long as people get the carrot, that's all that matters to them.

I know it was suppossed to be an orange carrot, but blue is ok,. I know it was suppossed to be cooked, but as long as I get to taste it right now, I'll eat it uncooked.

I dont care that you told me it was orange and cooked, just as long as I can get it now.

I think you will find it's more a case of;

 

I didn't give much thought to DX10, I already have Vista and an 8800gts. I did not upgrade my machine or buy AoC for those specific features. Said features will be implemented in the near future which is fine by me, I have played many MMO over the years and understand the difficulties in implementing them and delivering everything that you would like to see in on release day.

I guess there are many people that share that sentiment. Those who didn't get into Early Access, or didn't get chosen for beta, have old PC's or severe technical issues are happy to exploit every possible press release, comment or remark from developers to substantiate their cries of being hoodwinked.

Bigwhatshisface was one of the above people, he didn't get EA, I think, and seems bitter about that fact. Other people will take the facts and decide for themselves, sure I do not pretend that some things have been changed from the original intentions but so far non have effected me personally.

Bigwhatshisface? So the only thing left for you now is resorting to name calling? LOL.

As convict said above, you are a fanboi and every carrot is good enough for you.

FYI if you look at my posting history you will see that I have posed many good things and have informed many people about AoC and its features. If I recall I have even helped you with your gfx card drivers problems a couple days ago.

But as opposed to the fanbois, I know how to make the difference between good things and lies. And I say it as it is. Funcom have made a great game, but they have also twisted the reality with spin and wrong information to hype the game and make people purchase.

FYI after the wednesday debacle I got a new special early access key from amazon.co.uk on Saturday morning and got EA (yes 17th morning hours before the servers opened). The same happened to the amazon.co.uk customers and several other shops like 12gamers.com, etc... Funcom were wrong and they had to fix this. This just shows how much bullsh** the fanbois were spreading about this EA issue.

advertising on their site, and still there, that the game supports dx10 and doesnt....thats quite important isnt it? Well, not to me personally, but its an untruth.

Originally posted by BigMango

 

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Originally posted by nikoliath

 

And said people will still have DX10 cards and Vista in Q3, so this is no major issue. Said people will also enjoy the upgrade overall, despite lack of DX10 support from AoC...........RIGHT NOW........

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Actually, many said people who did not need to upgrade are screwed. Nvidia is releasing the next generation of gfx card within the next 2 months. This also means huge price drops for the current cards.

What Funcom said made many people purchase systems (gfx cards, vista, complete rigs) they can't use / don't need today. When they will finally use them they will have lost several hundreds bucks, or find themselves with an obsolete system compared to what will be available for the same price.

I would have to agree with this reasoning unfortunately. I love the game so far, but Funcom has been displaying some unsettling business tactics of late. The early access issues and the missing information early on about pre-order rewards... and now this.

I was one of those people who scrambled to get my hardware up to par to rock this game... now it seems I could have saved a lot of money since the DX10 feature will not be supported for months... I also pre-ordered way early on Amazon when Funcom was stating early on that SOME pre-orders would get the Mammoth rewards... only, as far as I could tell, they declined to mention which. Doesn't matter at this point I suppose... but it does make me wonder what else they have purposefully chosen not to mention.

Originally posted by Alan0n

I have for the past month told ppl about this on this website.

Yes I was a fanboi and I got screwed.

I was a fanboi and I got scewed with Vanguard. And now I was a fanboi and got lied to with AoC. Fortunately AoC is still a good game.

2 times is enough.