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ArcAngel3  5/16/08 12:04:30 AM

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"I am altering the deal, pray I don''t alter it any further." (summary of SWG)

Here are a few things to look at:

People don't trust SOE with this game anymore--far too many broken promises and outright misdirection.  So either let someone with a reputation for integrity run it, or make sweeping changes to SOE as an organization.

Everyone connected with the alleged ToOW/NGE bait and switch should be shown to the door, all the way up the foodchain.

The EULA should provide for players getting at least 45 days warning of major game changes.  They can then sub for 30 days, and if the game is entirely revamped again, they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.

Dishonest marketting ploys aimed at getting people to purchase things that SOE and LA have already planned to delete should be forbidden, and anyone involved in such ploys should be immediately dismissed and subject to legal action.

Some people working on the game have developed hostile relationships with the playerbase in the aftermath of the NGE, move them to other projects.  Their attitudes get in the way of doing a good job for people they generally dislike.

SOE and LEC kept sub money from people who upped their subscription to play advertised professions and features in the ToOW.  Give them their money back.  Start with anyone that bought ToOW and sub time that extended beyond Nov. 14, 2005.  The service that was advertised and paid for ended on that date.

Develop a collaborative system for coming up with and testing new content, and do not allow management to circumvent the process based on knee jerk reactions to a competitor's success.

Now, the game itself.  It's broken.  The NGE hyper-speed combat apparently causes lags and misfires, still.  Fix it.  Instancing bug ruins group attempts to enter instances.  Fix it.  Group waypoint arrows are still broken.  Fix them.  Collision detection was promised on Nov. 16, 2005.  Fix it.

If anyone really wants to bring server populations up, well, here are some ideas off the top of my head.  If saying, "we want to bring up the server populations" is just another way to string people along though, for pity's sake, go home and rethink your life.

 
jrgambit  5/16/08 12:10:30 AM

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Bringing pre-cu back will probably bring the populations up, of course with a big game coming out in 5 days, it probably wont go up very much.

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HastorHadron  5/16/08 1:05:11 AM

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They really need a classic server. Their stubborness, given their inherit greed, really baffles me.

 
RayRay77  5/16/08 2:05:02 AM

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Originally posted by HastorHadron

They really need a classic server. Their stubborness, given their inherit greed, really baffles me.

Apparently their unwillingness to admit they were wrong is stronger than their usual greed.

 
Suvroc  5/16/08 7:18:40 AM

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Originally posted by ArcAngel3

The EULA should provide for players getting at least 45 days warning of major game changes.  They can then sub for 30 days, and if the game is entirely revamped again, they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.


I really like this idea. I think it's both fair and reasonable to the consumer and developer.

 
kefkah  5/16/08 8:16:41 AM

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Originally posted by Suvroc
Originally posted by ArcAngel3

The EULA should provide for players getting at least 45 days warning of major game changes.  They can then sub for 30 days, and if the game is entirely revamped again, they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.


I really like this idea. I think it's both fair and reasonable to the consumer and developer.


/agree

ArcAngel3  5/16/08 10:01:39 AM

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"I am altering the deal, pray I don''t alter it any further." (summary of SWG)

Originally posted by kefkah

 

Originally posted by Suvroc
Originally posted by ArcAngel3

The EULA should provide for players getting at least 45 days warning of major game changes.  They can then sub for 30 days, and if the game is entirely revamped again, they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.


I really like this idea. I think it's both fair and reasonable to the consumer and developer.


/agree

 

Developers are free to continue to express themselves creatively and make actual improvements AND subscribers are given accurate information so that they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.

The only people I see not liking this idea are people who  don't want consumers to know what they're paying for in advance.

 
Suvroc  5/16/08 10:11:21 AM

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Originally posted by ArcAngel3

 

Originally posted by kefkah

 

Originally posted by Suvroc
Originally posted by ArcAngel3

The EULA should provide for players getting at least 45 days warning of major game changes.  They can then sub for 30 days, and if the game is entirely revamped again, they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.


I really like this idea. I think it's both fair and reasonable to the consumer and developer.


/agree

 

Developers are free to continue to express themselves creatively and make actual improvements AND subscribers are given accurate information so that they can make an informed decision about continuing to play.

 

The only people I see not liking this idea are people who  don't want consumers to know what they're paying for in advance.

 

Agreed.

However the only problem is how does one define major game changes? I'm sure that some unscrupulous developers would argue that point to justify their unannounced changes. Personally I would say anything that affects the basic core mechanics of that game.

 
salvaje  5/17/08 11:41:22 PM

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SWG will gain server populations if, and ONLY if, they reinstate Pre-CU.  Anything else means decline.

And they already have lost 95%+ of the pre CU populations.

 

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ArcAngel3  5/18/08 5:43:22 PM

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"I am altering the deal, pray I don''t alter it any further." (summary of SWG)

Originally posted by jrgambit

Bringing pre-cu back will probably bring the populations up, of course with a big game coming out in 5 days, it probably wont go up very much.


I hear ya brother, but this is assuming they want to populate the current game, since that's their stated goal.

 
ArcAngel3  5/18/08 6:02:31 PM