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Originally posted by deviliscious

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Originally posted by xpowderx

Devilicious, Please provide the source to your semi-copied post. Plagiarism is not cool.

LOL! I originally wrote this years ago and yes I have been reposting it since. It is not plagiarism when you repost your own work. I have more if you would like to see them... If you would like to hear my views of columbus, or the catholic crusades I would  happy to oblige=).

Next time you try to pull some B.S of something you claim is yours. You had better make sure most of us here have not seen this movie.

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

What a pessimistic view of life. Why self condemn? To say we have just this one lifetime and thats it? Why I have never really received the Atheist view. They are retards! A Atheist" I do not believe in God, nor a afterlife, nor life after death" When we die we just die. "But not in such a nice way.

 

Something I cannot conceive is that view . Criminals do the same kind of pessimistic self-condemnation. Then they blame that self-condemning on other people.

Sad, truly sad.

When I or any other atheist says "I do not believe in God, nor a afterlife, nor life after death. When we die we just die." it is not self condemning.  That is like saying "I don't believe I have powers like superman" to be self condemning, when it is just a logical conclusion based on a lack of evidence.

Call it pessimistic, but claiming an alternative to be true because it is an optimistic view doesn't make it true. 

And being atheist does not mean that one does not believe in an afterlife, it merely means you don't believe in a god, you could be an athiest that belives in an afterlife, souls, ghosts etc.  But most don't because if you are going to rationally examine god why not souls and ghosts too.

Originally posted by CactusmanX

 

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

What a pessimistic view of life. Why self condemn? To say we have just this one lifetime and thats it? Why I have never really received the Atheist view. They are retards! A Atheist" I do not believe in God, nor a afterlife, nor life after death" When we die we just die. "But not in such a nice way.

 

Something I cannot conceive is that view . Criminals do the same kind of pessimistic self-condemnation. Then they blame that self-condemning on other people.

Sad, truly sad.

That really doesn't make much sense to hold a view point because it sounds nice.

 

When I or any other atheist says "I do not believe in God, nor a afterlife, nor life after death. When we die we just die." it is not self condemning.  That is like saying "I don't believe I have powers like superman" to be self condemning, when it is just a logical conclusion based on a lack of evidence.

Call it pessimistic, but claiming an alternative to be true because it is an optimistic view doesn't make it true. 

And being atheist does not mean that one does not believe in an afterlife, it merely means you don't believe in a god, you could be an athiest that belives in an afterlife, souls, ghosts etc.  But most don't because if you are going to rationally examine god why not souls and ghosts too.

Cactus I believe all humanity is capable of most anything. Atheism brings creativity to a standstill, In fact it is the opposite of creativity. So "Yes" it is self-condemning. By Atheist belief alone is self-condemnation

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

And you are full of shit! Plagiarist! Word for word! at this site about 5-10 minute into the movie!www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

 

Next time you try to pull some B.S of something you claim is yours. You had better make sure most of us here have not seen this movie.

LOl This movie was made after I was out of college... and from the looks of it they used  the same recsourse... Most of the text is from the actual books, and they did not change the wording either.  I have not seen the movie actually  until you just posted it. If you go to your local library you will be able to find the books that were produced before this movie and find the same text.  That movie is awesome though thanks for the link.  

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

And you are full of shit! Plagiarist! Word for word! at this site about 5-10 minute into the movie!www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

 

Next time you try to pull some B.S of something you claim is yours. You had better make sure most of us here have not seen this movie.

LOl This movie was made after I was out of college... and from the looks of it they used  the same recsourse... Most of the text is from the actual books, and they did not change the wording either.  I have not seen the movie actually  until you just posted it. If you go to your local library you will be able to find the books that were produced before this movie and find the same text.  That movie is awesome though thanks for the link.  

ok, the books name? More than one? Still is plagiarism as you are using someone elses work as part of your post. As other college people know you are to show your sources. As some of the other posters have noted. In college not doing so can be expulsion. So the books?

Originally posted by xpowderx

Cactus I believe all humanity is capable of most anything. Atheism brings creativity to a standstill, In fact it is the opposite of creativity. So "Yes" it is self-condemning. By Atheist belief alone is self-condemnation

Being atheist says nothing on how you view yourself and humanity, I personally think that humans can do most anything too, given time, effort and resources that is.

How it affects creativity I am not sure, as finding solutions to problems, technology, art and the like really has nothing to do with belief in god.

If by atheism is the opposite of creativity you mean the world view isn't creative then no it is not.  Stories about gods and angels and monsters and sky realms, the creation of the Earth etc. is more creative, but then again it is not like atheists can't concieve of such things, they just don't believe they are actually real.

Originally posted by xpowderx

Originally posted by CactusmanX

 

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

What a pessimistic view of life. Why self condemn? To say we have just this one lifetime and thats it? Why I have never really received the Atheist view. They are retards! A Atheist" I do not believe in God, nor a afterlife, nor life after death" When we die we just die. "But not in such a nice way.

 

Something I cannot conceive is that view . Criminals do the same kind of pessimistic self-condemnation. Then they blame that self-condemning on other people.

Sad, truly sad.

That really doesn't make much sense to hold a view point because it sounds nice.

 

When I or any other atheist says "I do not believe in God, nor a afterlife, nor life after death. When we die we just die." it is not self condemning.  That is like saying "I don't believe I have powers like superman" to be self condemning, when it is just a logical conclusion based on a lack of evidence.

Call it pessimistic, but claiming an alternative to be true because it is an optimistic view doesn't make it true. 

And being atheist does not mean that one does not believe in an afterlife, it merely means you don't believe in a god, you could be an athiest that belives in an afterlife, souls, ghosts etc.  But most don't because if you are going to rationally examine god why not souls and ghosts too.

Cactus I believe all humanity is capable of most anything. Atheism brings creativity to a standstill, In fact it is the opposite of creativity. So "Yes" it is self-condemning. By Atheist belief alone is self-condemnation

I know it was directed toward Cactus, but hey, I'm rude and like to butt into conversations.

You really don't understand Atheism, but that is okay.  You've been told by non-atheists what it is, and you haven't given it much thought.  Again, that's okay. 

We Atheists can be, or we can not be, very creative.  I know some great Atheist authors that have written some wonderful fiction.  Sometimes we paint, sometimes we don't.  Sometimes we get real creative and develop cures for diseases, while sometimes we don't. 

Mostly, we don't think about death, while sometimes we do think about death, and sometimes it is all we think about.  What we all understand is that this life is the only life we've got, so we had better do something with it.  Or not do something with it.  Sometimes we go day by day and don't even think about the fact that this is the only life we've got, and we just wasted another day... and another day, and another day. 

What I am saying is this:  All Atheists are different.  You can ask any two of us a question about Atheism and get a different answer.  We're not organized, unless we are.  We don't follow a philosophy, unless we do.  We're all individuals attempting to make the most of this one life the best way we know how.  I can understand how that might scare a True Believer[tm]. 

But then again, we might be working from a different definition of Creativity.  Maybe you see it as imagining a heaven, creator, and an infinite afterlife.  Maybe writing, art, designing, philosophizing, building, teaching, and all those other wonderfully creative things aren't considered creativity to you? Maybe that is how limited your definition is.  Maybe that is what religion has done to you.  All I know is, in practice and theory, a lack of creativity has nothing to do with Atheism.

- LC

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

Originally posted by deviliscious

Originally posted by xpowderx

 

And you are full of shit! Plagiarist! Word for word! at this site about 5-10 minute into the movie!www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

 

Next time you try to pull some B.S of something you claim is yours. You had better make sure most of us here have not seen this movie.

LOl This movie was made after I was out of college... and from the looks of it they used  the same recsourse... Most of the text is from the actual books, and they did not change the wording either.  I have not seen the movie actually  until you just posted it. If you go to your local library you will be able to find the books that were produced before this movie and find the same text.  That movie is awesome though thanks for the link.  

ok, the books name? More than one? Still is plagiarism as you are using someone elses work as part of your post. As other college people know you are to show your sources. As some of the other posters have noted. In college not doing so can be expulsion. So the books?

 

 

- LC

Originally posted by Finwe

If there was no God, there would be no right or wrong, and I could logically argue myself into just following my primal urges, figuring that without a God, I should just follow my nature, self-control would be pointless.

Mind you, I am not moral out of fear of hell, but rather out of love for God.

There is no right and wrong.  There is only the current view of what is right and wrong and that will change with time.  The Bible,