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Catizone  5/10/08 11:45:24 AM

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If it's feature complete and ready to come out within 7 months?

 
daarco  5/10/08 12:09:22 PM

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Want Darkfall now!

Tasos claim they have gone throu some publishers, but none have come up with a good deal for Aventurine (because they are new and unheard of).

So last word i heard, Aventurine is to publish DF themselves, just as CCP does with EVE.

 

 

And seriously! Its 2008 now, why would a game developer need a publisher for? Just let people download it from a site. No retail and shit. Its the way of the future.

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Polarization  5/10/08 12:24:51 PM

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This is the way the Darkfall ends

Not with a beta but a whimper.

Originally posted by Catizone

If it's feature complete and ready to come out within 7 months?

 

 

 

Hopefully we will find out the reasons in 7 months time, either some executives at software publisher company’s repeated the epic failure analogous with Decca Record’s decision to turn down the chance to record the Beatles.

Or they all refused to publish the game for obvious reasons that will be potentially revealed to us over the coming months.

Until then certain people can continue to entertain elaborate theories, explanations or justifications as to why no one appears to want to publish the most complex and revolutionary MMO ever developed that’s already feature complete and ready for release this year.

 
Shannia  5/10/08 1:14:45 PM

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Maybe it has to do with DFO not giving full access to beta clients is the problem.  They only want to let the publishers DEMO the product.  It is easy to pull the wool over someone's eyes in a demo, but having full access to a game gives the publisher an idea of what they are getting into.  If all of these publishers have been given full access to DFO and none of them have given them a good enough offer, maybe that should tell us all something.

 

 

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dirtknap69  5/10/08 1:33:19 PM

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I prefer they didn't have a big name publisher -- means they won't be compelled to 'sell out'.

 
Brenelael  5/10/08 1:38:34 PM

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Originally posted by daarco

And seriously! Its 2008 now, why would a game developer need a publisher for? Just let people download it from a site. No retail and shit. Its the way of the future.

This is exactly what they plan on doing if you read into what has been said properly. How else would they be able to allow people to try it before they buy it. Its just common sense that after statements like this they plan on self-publishing with the game client available through download only. Not to mention its also good business as this way Aventurine can also keep 100% of the profit and not have to pay a "middle man" for a service they have stated over the last few months they have no need of (PR and Marketing). *IF* Darkfall is all they have claimed it will be it will sell on it's own without it. Darkfall will be one of two things......The greatest MMO ever produced or the biggest MMO failure ever produced. Their secrecy has cut the middle ground out of the picture I'm afraid. Only time will tell at this point.

 

Edit: In greatest I mean the largest feature set in any MMO to date not that it will topple WoW as that is something that may never be done.

 

 

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DarthRaiden  5/10/08 2:32:15 PM

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Because Aventurine don't won't  someone third partie to mess with their product.  If you can avoid it its a big thing and an big advantage.

Whoever it is who  can fill the position of a publisher he is not a developer but a merchant. For us gamers it should make no difference if a merchant more or less gets involved.

Plus we have a right for our game not being destroyed by lets say $OE , EA or someone else. $OE for example showed with  an amazing record of x catastrophic launches that they incapable to publish a game.   

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Catizone  5/10/08 2:37:54 PM

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No one wanted to publish Dark and Light either forcing them to self publish.

I wonder why?

 

 
DarthRaiden  5/10/08 2:39:53 PM

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Originally posted by Catizone

No one wanted to publish Dark and Light either forcing them to self publish.

I wonder why?

 

take you wonders  to the proper forums please. That would be the DnL forum then.

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jy88902  5/10/08 3:32:48 PM

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I'm going to say that's because publishers who make decisions regarding lots of money aren't as gullible and optimistic as the fans.

 
Shannia  5/10/08 3:40:07 PM

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Originally posted by Brenelael

 

 

Originally posted by daarco

And seriously! Its 2008 now, why would a game developer need a publisher for? Just let people download it from a site. No retail and shit. Its the way of the future.

This is exactly what they plan on doing if you read into what has been said properly. How else would they be able to allow people to try it before they buy it. Its just common sense that after statements like this they plan on self-publishing with the game client available through download only. Not to mention its also good business as this way Aventurine can also keep 100% of the profit and not have to pay a "middle man" for a service they have stated over the last few months they have no need of (PR and Marketing). *IF* Darkfall is all they have claimed it will be it will sell on it's own without it. Darkfall will be one of two things......The greatest MMO ever produced or the biggest MMO failure ever produced. Their secrecy has cut the middle ground out of the picture I'm afraid. Only time will tell at this point.

 

 

Edit: In greatest I mean the largest feature set in any MMO to date not that it will topple WoW as that is something that may never be done.

 

 

Bren

I don't know if I agree with this.  It cost a company less than $3 per box to put the box on the store shelves.  It cost Fileplanet $3.05 for each of the 50,000 beta key winners for AoC.  For a game 2x bigger than any game ever, we are looking at 20-30gig of download.  I just don't see how they save money going d2d.  Bandwidth isn't free.

 

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jy88902  5/10/08 3:48:35 PM