Star Wars Galaxies

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

Originally posted by Stellos

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

Okay, in the beginning. There was no jedis. Then when they added those. You needed to Master three specific profs which you didn't know in what order.

Secondly, you got an extra slot on that server. Jedi had permadeath. Took about a year to become master. If you ever reached that status. In short. There you have the jedi. Now i hate them >_> Like the rest of the NGE

Originally posted by Bakoryo

 

Originally posted by Stellos

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

 

Okay, in the beginning. There was no jedis. Then when they added those. You needed to Master three specific profs which you didn't know in what order.

Secondly, you got an extra slot on that server. Jedi had permadeath. Took about a year to become master. If you ever reached that status. In short. There you have the jedi. Now i hate them >_> Like the rest of the NGE

If  you did not master the three specific profs in the correct order were you screwed?  Seems pretty tedious, but pretty cool as well.

Originally posted by Bakoryo

 

Originally posted by Stellos

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

 

Okay, in the beginning. There was no jedis. Then when they added those. You needed to Master three specific profs which you didn't know in what order.

Secondly, you got an extra slot on that server. Jedi had permadeath. Took about a year to become master. If you ever reached that status. In short. There you have the jedi. Now i hate them >_> Like the rest of the NGE

Jedi Master was not  possible. Highest possible rank towards Jedi Master was Jedi Guardian 4,4,4,4

Originally posted by Stellos

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

Once you had the Jedi you had a new character slot.  There was Perma death at first so people really had a hard time keeping their Jedi safe from Bounty Hunters while they tried to level up their Jedi.

People took alot of pride in these characters, and it was a big thing, for the people I knew anyway, whether your Jedi was going to take a dark or light Jedi path.  It semed to me that guilds also took pride in having a Jedi among their numbers.

I was always struck by the way people would speak about "My Jedi" as if it were such a great character accomplishment.  Nobody ever speaks about them that way anymore do they?

Once you could have them as a starting character they were just ...cookie cutter people running around in the same outfits.  Like the Clone wars had come to Galaxies but in the most lackluster way possible.

Originally posted by Stellos

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

In the Beginning there were no Jedi,  We all were happily running around theed with dl44, fwg5's blasting one another with glee.  When they release Holo's which help show the path to jedi, was the start of the downfall of the game.  For people were no longer happy with just playing in the Star Wars Universe, the game became a grind to become a jedi.

Originally posted by Bakoryo

 

Originally posted by Stellos

I did not play at release.  How was the orginal Jedi concept at the beginning of the SWG's life?  I recall that the player had to somehow unlock a jedi slot.  Is this true?  How did you unlock this slot?  I thought it was something different for every player.  After you unlocked the slot was your new character automatically a jedi like in the game now or did you have to go through much more?

How do you differentiate between those who earned Jedi status the hard way and those who just now click and become a Jedi?

 

Okay, in the beginning. There was no jedis. Then when they added those. You needed to Master three specific profs which you didn't know in what order.

Secondly, you got an extra slot on that server. Jedi had permadeath. Took about a year to become master. If you ever reached that status. In short. There you have the jedi. Now i hate them >_> Like the rest of the NGE

The initial system was probably 5 silent professions. Nobody unlocked with this system so they introduced holocrons in Oct. '03, making the system "4+1", which means up to 4 holocron clues and 1 silent profession. This unveiled how the system worked and made it much easier to unlock. After a flood of jedi were unleashed the devs increased the number of silents to make it 4+2, then 4+3, then finally they stopped at 4+4.

Sometimes holocrons went silent early. All confirmed cases in the past seemed to agree that this only means the player already did one or more required professions before using all 4 holocrons. So holocrons only told you your first 4 required professions rather than just any 4.

(note - the spreadsheets for the intermediate and final system assume the first 4 professions were done using holocron clues.)

Initial System (5 silent professions)

Intermediate System (up to 4 holocron clues, 1 silent profession)

Final System (up to 4 holocron clues, 4 silent professions)

Notable findings in the final system:

* There are 20,475 different combinations of professions that result in unlocking.
* There is a 1 out of 20,475 chance to unlock on the 8th profession (0.005%).
* There's only a 9% chance that you'll unlock on the 20th profession.
* The average number of professions a player had to grind before unlocking was 28.

Below are the chances that you'll unlock on the next profession after each successive mastery, for all three systems. i.e. If you mastered 16 professions and did all your holos, then you have a 1.101% chance of unlocking on the next profession in the final system.

Download the excel file HERE

You're godlike, PreCu.  Nice information.  I had forgotten the Holocrons and the silent stuff.