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Par-Salian
Novice Member
Joined: 4/15/08
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. |
I doubt it. Despite what the media's "official" polls to their sheeple viewers state, I will be surprised if Obama can beat McCain. I've heard countless white people say, behind closed doors, that they will never vote for a black man. Of course, they are not going to admit it in public....but the voting booth's not public, is it? I know it's sad that, in this day and age, many Americans still fall back into racist mindsets when it comes to leadership. It certainly did not help matters for Obama to be involved with the whole Jeremiah Wright scandal and I don't think it helped that he's obtained something like 92% of the black vote; it makes those bigot voters even less apt to support Obama in the general election when they feel like he will only watch out for his race during his term. I've decided to support Hillary, not because I give a crap about race or gender but because I do not want a continuation of the last eight years of terrible leadership in this country and that's what McCain and the Republicans stand for. |
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TookyG
Warhammer Online Correspondent
Joined: 4/19/04
"...you mean three philippino women." |
5/09/08 3:58:57 PM#2
McCain can beat Obama, Obama can beat McCain. There's a long way to go until November. Also, don't lump McCain and all Republicans in with W. It doesn't make sense to do so. If you start thinking that all people in their respective parties are the same then what does that make all Democrats? Tree-hugging, tax-and-spend, cowards? No, they're not all like that. What would all Republicans be? Bible-beating, heartless, warmongers? No, they're not all like that. If you want this country to move forward everyone on both sides of the isle has to work together. Until you cancel your subscription, you are only helping to continue the cycle of mediocrity. |
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Vampir
Novice Member
Joined: 11/01/04
"If we could live without passions,maybe we would know some kind of peace, but we would be hollow" |
5/09/08 4:07:22 PM#3
Originally posted by Par-Salian Because you know if you actually look at it McCain isn't really all that connected with his party. He has been for campaign finance reform before any democrat, he was the first one to be openly pissed once the bullshit behind the WMD intelligence was discovered, and he bitched about it a lot, He was the first to complain about the conditions and torture in guatanamo bay. He really has never been in the bush camp and has actually ran AGAINST bush. Hilary and Obama i don't think either stand a chance against McCain. Obama because minority voters vote in insanely low numbers and he could never win the wouth or the midwest, or the southest. Hilary because she is too liberal, and a woman. Not to mention McCain has the most wiggle room of all the canadates, none of the hardline republicans are gonna vote for a obama or hilary, he has always had the support of moderate republicans, So he can slide to left to get the support of moderate democrats. Which isn't hypocrital of him because he has always been in that position.
98% of the teenage population does or has tried smoking pot. If you''re one of the 2% who hasn''t, copy & paste this in your signature. |
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DailyBuzz
Guide
Joined: 9/25/07
Hey guys, I broke this...anyone know how to fix it? |
5/09/08 4:25:15 PM#4
Originally posted by TookyG www.youtube.com/watch Originally posted by Vampir Hmmm, wonder where he stands on these issues now. When was the last time you had a look at old McCain anyway? You're not saying he's just going through the motions to try and weasel into the white house, then defect from the republicans, are you? Whatever happened to the 'straight talk express'? I suppose he meant it at the time he said it though. Times do CHANGE. Better not get caught flip-flopping. We all know what happened to the last guy who did that. |
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5/09/08 4:26:42 PM#5
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DailyBuzz
Guide
Joined: 9/25/07
Hey guys, I broke this...anyone know how to fix it? |
5/09/08 4:34:34 PM#6
Originally posted by Precusor
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5/09/08 4:38:41 PM#7
Another Obama adviser quietly tossed under the bus for holding talks with Hamas. |
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5/09/08 4:55:50 PM#8
I wish we were seeing the "old" McCain, I'd have an easy time voting for him. Sadly, I don't agree with a ton of his election year politics. That's part of my problem with him now is that his record used to be quite clear on many topics, but now, I'm not really positive what he would do regardless of what he promises in this election year. To be honest, the candidate I expect to remain closest to their past is Clinton. If I were to vote for her, at least I feel I know what I would be getting. Obama is shrouded in so much mystery to me, it amazes me that people actually can consider him for President. I can listen to what he says, read what he and his campaign publish, but every time I feel I am being set up for an ambush. |
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5/09/08 5:15:23 PM#9
Can Obama Beat McCain?
No |
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5/09/08 5:20:19 PM#10
I doubt there will be an "election" in November...something will happen between now and then - an event of sufficient gravity to give Dubya the excuse he needs to declare martial law.
But if the "election" is allowed to take place...the magic negro will "win". What better way to implement the draft than to have Barack Obama do it? |
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unconformed
Novice Member
Joined: 3/01/08
Warning: I am considered offensive, whatever that means. |
5/09/08 5:26:39 PM#11
obama only speaks speeches well. live performances with QnA's he's a stumbling fool like most politicians. so NO. is the answer. chips, dips chains & whips. |
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5/09/08 6:23:25 PM#12
Originally posted by poopypants
this cant be a for real post.
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. |
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frodus
Apprentice Member
Joined: 9/15/06
Justification is an event. Sanctification is a process. |
5/09/08 9:58:08 PM#13
Conducted 4/30-5/3 by FD; surveyed 278 GOP primary voters and 374 Dem primary voters; margins of error +/- 6% and +/- 5%, respectively (release, 5/9). WH '08 Primary Election Matchup (Dems) - Now 3/31 2/17 B. Obama 48% 50% 43% H. Clinton 37 38 45 Other -- 1 1 Undec 8 6 7
Fav/Unfav - Now 3/31 2/17 - GOP Dem GOP Dem GOP Dem J. McCain 72%/20% 28%/59% 84%/12% 37%/51% 68%/18% 44%/40% G. Bush 60 /36 11 /85 67 /31 12 /86 67 /29 16 /82 B. Obama 31 /61 69 /23 31 /60 77 /17 37 /48 71 /22 R. Nader 22 /52 28 /45 23 /46 22 /43 na na H. Clinton 21 /76 70 /26 14 /83 70 /26 21 /78 81 /14 B. Clinton 16 /82 75 /20 18 /79 73 /24 21 /79 80 /16
How Satisfied Would You Be If Obama/Clinton Gets The Dem Nod? (Dems) - Now 3/31 2/17 - Oba Cli Oba Cli Oba Cli Very/somewhat 76% 75% 77% 75% 78% 79% Not very/not at all 21 23 18 23 18 19
Are You Satisfied With McCain As The GOP Nominee, Or Would You Have Preferred Someone Else? (GOPers) - Now 3/31 Preferred someone else 55% 52% Satisfied with McCain 42 44
If Obama/Clinton Gets The Dem Nod, Would You Vote For ___? (Dems) - Now 3/31 2/17 - Oba Cli Oba Cli Oba Cli Him/her enthusiastically in Nov. 56% 50% 56% 49% 55% 59% Him/her, but mainly against GOPer 21 27 22 30 22 22 The GOP candidate 12 9 9 10 9 10 Not vote at all 6 8 7 7 6 5
Which Best Describes Your Nov. Reaction To McCain Getting The GOP Nod? (GOPers) - Now 3/31 Vote for him enthusiastically 34% 38% Vote for him, but mainly against the Dem 42 40 Vote for the Dem candidate 11 7 Not vote at all 2 4
Has Obama Been Attacking Clinton Unfairly, Or Not? (Dems) - Now 3/31 Yes, has been 21% 22% No, has not 67 70
Has Clinton Been Attacking Obama Unfairly, Or Not? (Dems) - Now 3/31 Yes, has been 50% 49% No, has not 38 41
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress. |
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Par-Salian
Novice Member
Joined: 4/15/08
Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. |
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Ceredwynn
Novice Member
Joined: 4/21/04
"you cannot depend on your eyes, when your imagination is out of focus" - mark twain |
5/09/08 11:19:14 PM#15
If people really want change then Obama is the path of choice. If you don't want a continuation of the last couple presidential terms then why put another Clinton in the White House or McCain that will continue Bush's will. ____________________________________________________________________ |
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5/09/08 11:26:52 PM#16
Good luck in the GE. |
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Nasica
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/13/04
The Footprint of The Buddha |
5/09/08 11:31:15 PM#17
The best way to defeat "empty rhetoric" is with empty rhetoric, hey precurser ? |
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5/10/08 1:15:53 AM#18
Originally posted by CeredwynnYeah, but change to what? That's my beef. If you listen to him speak, it is one thing (depending on the crowd). If you read his campaign website, it is another thing (standard duplicity rhetoric). If you look at his short record, it is another thing (predominantly left leaning). Bottom line for me is that I don't trust him. A man that defends his Christian background by using his 20 years in a Chicago church as evidence and then when the heat is turned on his pastor's Marxist rhetoric, he denounces his self-proclaimed "mentor." We may all be sick of hearing about it, but the fact for me is that the whole situation is fishy.
Lastly, McCain is not Bush. I honestly don't believe that McCain really even likes Bush all that much. He plays the politician, but he has been at odds with Bush for quite some time. He has been critical of many of the White House policies for some time, and although he has supported his party, like he should, he has still voiced resentment toward overall management. |
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Vemoi
Novice Member
Joined: 5/14/05
Government always finds a need for whatever money it gets. |
5/10/08 1:22:38 AM#19
Originally posted by NasicaDo your leaders hang with terrorist, criminals and racist Nasica? You think the government made that video?!?! huh? "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -- Winston Churchill |
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Nasica
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/13/04
The Footprint of The Buddha |
5/10/08 1:44:55 AM#20
Originally posted by VemoiYou mean like dodging drafts, smoking pot, snorting cocaine and supporting Israel at all costs? No matter which way you add it up. Obama is SIGNIFCANTLY less criminal than GWB ever was, or will be for that matter.
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