No pun intended in the title. But come, the, f***, on.

Seriously? feats.goonheim.com/assassin

I can see how this looks really simular to WoW's Talent Tree

Sooo looks like a normal talent tree...... What did ya expect? Please make us a telent tree that people understand that looks different then any other and post a screen shot please! Maybe they look similar (not even close to identical) but it fullfills its role, its easy to read, understand, and gives alot of info. Please think before you post.

Three trees. Which you start getting at level 10.

I bet it looks like i'm trolling, but I'm not. Are they even trying?

But.... it's got weird looking Greek letter counters at the bottom instead of numbers though...

Originally posted by Joshyray

Sooo looks like a normal talent tree...... What did ya expect? Please make us a telent tree that people understand that looks different then any other and post a screen shot please! Maybe they look similar (not even close to identical) but it fullfills its role, its easy to read, understand, and gives alot of info. Please think before you post.

In LOTR, you unlock your "talents" by different in game actions. Improved Ability? Use it X amount of times. Resistance to poison? Kill 1000 poison ridden spiders. Then you equip those, once unlocked, into a similar tree.

It wasnt the best, but it was fresh. They tryed.

The same trees you get at the same level isn't trying.

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Originally posted by Celeras
Three trees. Which you start getting at level 10.

I bet it looks like i'm trolling, but I'm not. Are they even trying?

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Sadly, I don't think anyone is trying these days. Seems like "second best" is the common goal now.

Actually, that's 2 trees for the class and 1 tree general to each "categories" I beleive.

And like someone said. I doubt you could do better at finding a better idea than that.

Trolls really ran out of ideas! Good to hear.

Originally posted by kolyen

Actually, that's 2 trees for the class and 1 tree general to each "categories" I beleive.

 

And like someone said. I doubt you could do better at finding a better idea than that.

  I could probably name off about 10 good ideals that suit the lore more, but I doubt you actually want to hear them.  While I personally have no issue with people using things that worked well in past games, and this isn't exactly a deal breaker for me regardless, I have to admit...its just one more example of how much AoC is geared to be like WoW when all of my hopes rode on the differences it was supposed to have.  Ahhh...PvP mini-games, Raiding geared for top-tier loot, original PvP gear designed on a tier system for earnings, talent trees....hell, why not just go full force and make the game run on 10 year old PC's kicking with nothing but DOS lol.

  I exaggerated, I digress, but I do enjoy doing so.  Naturally the two games do have differences...and for the sake of decency I'm not going to use the "Guild Wars" examples here.  I will say that my expectations have been soundly dashed about the matter though...and that I fully expect the game to draw no more players than LoTR did.  Which, by all standards, would make it a success...except that I'm talking about top end figures and not absolute potential.  So, it'll be niche...and not even niche in the good way.  Niche in the "God I wish I had a game just like WoW, but pretty" way and that makes me sad.

  Realizing this makes me wonder what LoTR even is then.  I guess it was a touch prettier than WoW.  Perhaps AoC will be the death of THAT game...wouldn't that be interesting?  It would serve them right for even including such horrid PvP in the game.  I'm sure that AoC will at least get THAT part remotely right...even if it IS a touch bland from normalcy.

I don't understand.. what's this complaint about?

I like talent trees.. a lot of others seam to agree.

I also like achievements like EQ1 and EQ2, but OOOOH NOOO if FC did that.. they'd be coping EQ as well huh?

*sigh* trolls running out of fuel for their fire I see

Originally posted by _Kyle_

I don't understand.. what's this complaint about?

Ye i agree, Why not use talent tree.

Ppl know the system and its good for customization.

Why try and make something different when this works.

Originally posted by Celeras

 

Originally posted by _Kyle_

I don't understand.. what's this complaint about?

The fact that its EXACTLY the same, without a hint of AoC flavor?

 

 

seriously tho rather than trolling or whatever your doing go and actually look at the talent trees for more than 5 minutes - you might notice things (like the fact that there is almost double the feats available in WoW for starters) that actually make the systems quite different...having a shared tree for each subclass is also the same as WoW right? <wrong>

and b4 you start with the more isn't different thing..yea having two piles of gold is a little different than having one...

PS - this thread fails

Originally posted by Celeras

 

Originally posted by _Kyle_

I don't understand.. what's this complaint about?

The fact that its EXACTLY the same, without a hint of AoC flavor?

 

 

Not inventors trying to redesign the wheel. Grow up and understand how businesses work and what their goal is.

PROFITS

Originally posted by boomerangx

 

and b4 you start with the more isn't different thing..yea having two piles of gold is a little different than having one...

 

More isn't better. The way these trees are set up(the fact that it takes more points to progress down the further you), the higher tiered skills will quickly be tested, and all but the best never used.

Theres a reason why "builds" become popular. Sure, you have lots of choices, but once you figure out which of these "choices" suck.. it becomes nothing but common sense. More choices won't change that.

Originally posted by _Kyle_

 

Not inventors trying to redesign the wheel. Grow up and understand how businesses work and what their goal is.

 

PROFITS

You can't call a game NEXT GEN unless you redesign the wheel. They're not interested in becoming the next gen, they're interested in making money.

if it aint broke why fix it .. and also

THIS THREAD FAILS!!!!!!!!

Uh, so hopefully you realize that blizzard talent tree design isnt even original.  Go do some research, it is copied from other things that existed long before MMOs, they just adapted it.

Also who cares?  So what if it looks the same, if it aint broke dont fix it.  Thats like telling tire manufacturers to come up with new shapes for tires because someone else used the traditional round shape first.

Originally posted by Sepulcher

Uh, so hopefully you realize that blizzard talent tree design isnt even original.  Go do some research, it is copied from other things that existed long before MMOs, they just adapted it.

Also who cares?  So what if it looks the same, if it aint broke dont fix it.  Thats like telling tire manufacturers to come up with new shapes for tires because someone else used the traditional round shape first.

Point being: you can't preach that youre the next generation of MMOs when your own fanbase comes around with the defense: "More of the same, if it ain't broke don't fix it".