Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Brenics

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Brenics

Hate to tell you this but the starter area is the first big area to immerse people into the game. If you fail here you need to work even harder after it.

The reason they did it like this is because their free trial system will consist of unlimited access to the Tortage area 1-20. If and when you want to buy and play the REAL game, you then gain access to the whole game post 20.

 

 

This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.

This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self.  Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.

Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?

 

Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".

 

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of  potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

 

 

Pleas show me your proof more pre-orders have been placed after the OB.

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Daffid011

A game should hook a player in the first few levels and put its best face forward by that point.  This open beta isn't some sort of bug hunt, it is one large marketing campaign.  That is what all open betas are now, marketing.

 

A game should not need to be played to high levels to give an indication if it will be enjoyable or to see if performance improves.  It should offer those things as soon as you log in for the first time. 

 

Note: I am not making an opinion on Conan one way or the other here, just that I think the original posters idea is fatally flawed.

My guild of 50+ individuals are hooked on AoC, and were hooked by the open beta. If you aren't hooked thats fine, but don't start flame threads ON the game saying it blows.

 

 

Nuff Said

 

FYI: Devs stated the game doesn't actually start until 20, and 1-20 should maybe take you a couple hours. Don't start arguments you lose badly at.

If the game doesn't start until level 20 then perhaps they should have taken that into account BEFORE they lifted the NDA.  That seems a rather stupid thing to do which you think is the fault of other players for discussing their experiences.  That is the whole point of lifting the NDA is so that people can openly discuss the game with the general public who also may not have access to the game?

 

 

[color=red]Also, your whole "my guild loves the game so shut up if you don't" mentality leads me to believe you are not here to discuss, but rather dictate that your opinion is the only valid voice allowed here.  If those 50 people love it so much let them post, I would love to read it.[/color]

 

Last, before you throw me under the bus with anyone that dares disagree with you, I have not played the game.  I just find your whole post in bad taste and misinformed.

They start threads with the EXACT same mentality and are taken as the "word" and "truth" about AoC. Nothing but flaming children who haven't even PLAYED the game.

If I can't voice my opinion, you can't either....it's just that simple. If you don't want people PO'ed like me posting, then stop starting threads that have no truth or merrit behind them, and then going back to your home-game's forum and posting more negative bs about it and how much your game rules over it.

Originally posted by Brenics

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Brenics

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Brenics

Hate to tell you this but the starter area is the first big area to immerse people into the game. If you fail here you need to work even harder after it.

The reason they did it like this is because their free trial system will consist of unlimited access to the Tortage area 1-20. If and when you want to buy and play the REAL game, you then gain access to the whole game post 20.

 

 

This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.

This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self.  Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.

Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?

 

Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".

 

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of  potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

 

 

Pleas show me your proof more pre-orders have been placed after the OB.

If your too lazy to do it yourself theres no reason I should hand everything to you. Probably another reason all these negative PR threads about how a 4yr old game (WoW) > AoC (not released yet).

Originally posted by Gishgeron

 

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of  potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

 

 

 

  You are far too emotionally attached to this company.  A terribly unwise decision, as they are not equally attached to you.

Then come back and tell me if wisdom truly matters to you at that moment sir :(.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Originally posted by Brenics

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Brenics

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Brenics

Hate to tell you this but the starter area is the first big area to immerse people into the game. If you fail here you need to work even harder after it.

The reason they did it like this is because their free trial system will consist of unlimited access to the Tortage area 1-20. If and when you want to buy and play the REAL game, you then gain access to the whole game post 20.

 

 

This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.

This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self.  Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.

Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?

 

Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".

 

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of  potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

 

 

Pleas show me your proof more pre-orders have been placed after the OB.

If your too lazy to do it yourself theres no reason I should hand everything to you. Probably another reason all these negative PR threads about how a 4yr old game (WoW) > AoC (not released yet).

I knew this would be your come back. Never expected anything else from you. Just FYI I have and pre-orders are being canceled like mad.

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

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Originally posted by Brenics

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

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Originally posted by Brenics

Hate to tell you this but the starter area is the first big area to immerse people into the game. If you fail here you need to work even harder after it.

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The reason they did it like this is because their free trial system will consist of unlimited access to the Tortage area 1-20. If and when you want to buy and play the REAL game, you then gain access to the whole game post 20.


This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.

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This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self. Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.

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Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?
Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

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If you love the god damn thing so much go play it and stop trying to woe others into your mind. You are either posting in between crashes or can't play it solid enough or you wouldn't be here.

That being said most players judge an MMO on the first 10 levels this gives them an idea on the battle system and how it will pan out.

If you hate AoC's battle system well then you can figure that out the first 1-13 levels.

If you hate the quest setup you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.

If you hate how your machine runs it you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.

If you don't like the UI you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.

Obviously there is a reason why people are pulling away from the game, good for you and your guild their buddy glad you think you have some sort of superiority over everyone else cause your "guild" loves it. Stop being a damn fanboi and just accept that fact that any game can be judged the first couple hours, period.

I'd honestly love for someone to tell me why EXTROADINARILY negative threads like "WoW >Aoc", "WAR > AoC", "Aoc = GW", or even "AoC = needs a language filter and nudity turned off for everyone" and no one really flaming the OP, and is generally accepted.

However, when someone trys to defend AoC from these fanbois and children they are looked upon and immature and fools? Yet the afformentioned threads completely setting fire to AoC are based upon zero and assumed information that is completely false are considered truthful and holy??

Where have all the intelectually respondant people gone in the gaming world? Has everyone absolutely lost their mind or has WoW created a mentality that creates hateful and negative individuals? I'm not really trying to flame WoW whatsoever (would make me a hypocrit), however....it just seems so difficult to think otherwise considering the first day AoC open beta started there were literally 29 WoW > AoC threads up with over 600 WoW fans attacking people who even like the conan genre.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

Originally posted by Gishgeron

 

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of  potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

 

 

 

  You are far too emotionally attached to this company.  A terribly unwise decision, as they are not equally attached to you.

I couldn't care about the company, the fact the IP itself is being attacked by parent's and children alike are what are frustrating me and angering me beyond most logical standards. Take a game or genre you cherish the most, and then watch children making ignorant and biased statements about it trying to ruin it.

 

Then come back and tell me if wisdom truly matters to you at that moment sir :(.

  I have...you act like you are the only one that experiences these things.  Fact is, they are games...and I really don't care who says what about it.  You ever played D&D?  The tabletop...not the MMO.  If you wanna REALLY see something which, not only gets bashed, but gets you downright shut down in most social circles...look at THAT. 

  The IP isn't being attacked at all...in fact, a lot of REALLY big fans of Conan are attacking the game because it failed to deliver on the 'hook' it was promised to.  There are no bar fights....PvP is almost excluded to endgame, and the gear system is going to favor raiding.  People wanted to dive into the Conan world and be enveloped...and instead are getting fed a game full of loaded zoning coupled with the PROMISE of endgame content that will force them right back into the WoW raiding chain.

  To put it bluntly, Funcom promised a holy grail, and merely delivered 'another' MMO....amongst a sea of million others which operate very much the same way.  Yeah, people are pissed about it.  I'm not even sure why you are shocked.  LoTR didn't get this kind of flak because they didn't suggest that their game would be REVOLUTIONARY.  Funcom did, and its gonna bite them in the arse come release day.

Originally posted by solareus

Originally posted by URMAKER

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Those of you judging AoC based on the 1-20 area that was stated as being the "tutorial" starter area of AoC you FAIL badly, and show just how little you know about judging the quality of an MMO.

I'm going to laugh at ALL of you naysaying kids listening to others and not trying it yourself (the open world itself past 20) a month after the game comes out.

You don't have to be a "fanboi" to not produce ignorant and stupid statements. Judging a game before you even play it?

 

YOU FAIL

 

AoC community is FAIL due to immature losers like yourself. Get over yourself already because you sir are fail.

Word , this is a deja vu community of Vanguard, The game is perfect , your computer sucks... lol

I am going to continue with my preorder on AoC but I can't stop smiling everytime I see another full page of new post bashing AoC. To sad I was not around this forum when the VG beta was.

Originally posted by HashBrick

 

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

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Originally posted by Brenics

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

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Originally posted by Brenics

 

Hate to tell you this but the starter area is the first big area to immerse people into the game. If you fail here you need to work even harder after it.

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The reason they did it like this is because their free trial system will consist of unlimited access to the Tortage area 1-20. If and when you want to buy and play the REAL game, you then gain access to the whole game post 20.


This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.

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This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self. Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.

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Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?
Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

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If you love the god damn thing so much go play it and stop trying to woe others into your mind. You are either posting in between crashes or can't play it solid enough or you wouldn't be here.

That being said most players judge an MMO on the first 10 levels this gives them an idea on the battle system and how it will pan out.

If you hate AoC's battle system well then you can figure that out the first 1-13 levels.

If you hate the quest setup you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.

If you hate how your machine runs it you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.

If you don't like the UI you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.

Obviously there is a reason why people are pulling away from the game, good for you and your guild their buddy glad you think you have some sort of superiority over everyone else cause your "guild" loves it. Stop being a damn fanboi and just accept that fact that any game can be judged the first couple hours, period.

-People who judge a game on the first 10 levels shouldn't be playing anything other than WoW.

-I don't hate the quest setup, it's actually really well done for being in the unpolished old client state that it's in. (Release client is atleast 3 builds ahead of open beta). People who hate the quest system are generally WAR fans, I won't bash them because atleast WAR didn't ripoff WoW like the reverse happened.

-My $600ish dollar machine runs AoC really well on HIGH tab settings. I enjoy myself playing at the moment, but leveling 8 toons 1-13 is getting tedious until saturday (WOOT!). People who are bashing because their comp blows and is more ancient than a 1970 pickup truck have no room to complain in the first place....go buy an xbox.

-Haven't seen a single person bashing the UI at the moment.

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb
I'd honestly love for someone to tell me why EXTROADINARILY negative threads like "WoW >Aoc", "WAR > AoC", "Aoc = GW", or even "AoC = needs a language filter and nudity turned off for everyone" and no one really flaming the OP, and is generally accepted.

However, when someone trys to defend AoC from these fanbois and children they are looked upon and immature and fools? Yet the afformentioned threads completely setting fire to AoC are based upon zero and assumed information that is completely false are considered truthful and holy??

Where have all the intelectually respondant people gone in the gaming world? Has everyone absolutely lost their mind or has WoW created a mentality that creates hateful and negative individuals? I'm not really trying to flame WoW whatsoever (would make me a hypocrit), however....it just seems so difficult to think otherwise considering the first day AoC open beta started there were literally 29 WoW > AoC threads up with over 600 WoW fans attacking people who even like the conan genre.

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Because you are just as bad as the haters.

Let everyone have their own opinion for the game, if they like it or hate it that's their choice. Telling everyone what you think is just further telling us why you like or want to give it a chance.

I'm still on the fence neither like it or hate, but it fell short of so many expectations and has nothing next gen about it.

If a MMO doesn't capture my attention in the 1st few minutes, I won't bother with the next few.   I know if a game is for me pretty quickly.  It doesn't need to "grow" on me.  I'm not some bored teenager with loads of time on my hands.  If a game isn't top notch, I don't bother anymore.  I've seen it all and done it all.  Anything average isn't worth my time.

I'm sure other working, married adults with kids, who been around for a while have a similar attitude.

Originally posted by Orphes

 

Originally posted by solareus

Originally posted by URMAKER

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

Those of you judging AoC based on the 1-20 area that was stated as being the "tutorial" starter area of AoC you FAIL badly, and show just how little you know about judging the quality of an MMO.

I'm going to laugh at ALL of you naysaying kids listening to others and not trying it yourself (the open world itself past 20) a month after the game comes out.

You don't have to be a "fanboi" to not produce ignorant and stupid statements. Judging a game before you even play it?

 

YOU FAIL

 

AoC community is FAIL due to immature losers like yourself. Get over yourself already because you sir are fail.

Word , this is a deja vu community of Vanguard, The game is perfect , your computer sucks... lol

Irony is the post made that AoC will "kill" Vanguard.
Hey, here is your/their own crowd of blatent bashers.

 

I am going to continue with my preorder on AoC but I can't stop smiling everytime I see another full page of new post bashing AoC. To sad I was not around this forum when the VG beta was.

You just shot yourself in the foot with that statement.

I seem to be reading a lot of posts by people who didn't really enjoy the 1-20 experience, many seem under the impression the whole game is like the starting area and if they call it a tutorial it surely is one hell of a long one.

I feel giving my opinion to you is difficult since you are so uptight and god forbid anyone that disagrees with you You just need to understand there are going to be many people who love what they see in Aoc and many who are going to dislike it, and if you are so confident in Funcom and Aoc, why even get so upset when people post their opinions or likes and dislikes?.

I played from 1-13 and I did enjoy it, I felt the tutorial was a bit long though. But anyway just try and relax a little, people will always have their opinions and with your post even more so :P

Regards

Manaia

Originally posted by Daffid011

A game should hook a player in the first few levels and put its best face forward by that point.  This open beta isn't some sort of bug hunt, it is one large marketing campaign.  That is what all open betas are now, marketing.

 

A game should not need to be played to high levels to give an indication if it will be enjoyable or to see if performance improves.  It should offer those things as soon as you log in for the first time. 

 

Note: I am not making an opinion on Conan one way or the other here, just that I think the original posters idea is fatally flawed.

A game should hook you the FIRST TIME YOU PLAY IT. If it doesn't, then do something else.

Been avoiding GTA4 till a few nights ago. Literally 30 seconds into the game my brain clicked.

This didn't happen with conan, instead I kept hearing "eq clone, lotr clone, etc. clone".

It looks cool, has a neat mechanic, but other than that, your standard MMO world.

WoW = Styled

AOC = Machine placed on top of a Styled story.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

 

AoC is nothing compared to Vanguard, everyone can agree NO game can come close to that much failure in one year.

 

You just shot yourself in the foot with that statement.

  Vanguard wasn't the first game to fail on a large scale, and it won't be the last.  I doubt anyone can agree on anything regardless.  There IS one thing Vanguard had that AoC won't......accessibility.  Yeah, it took a heavier rig to run....but not near as heavy as THIS game will take.  So, while Vanguard DID fail...it at least got more initial fishes than what AoC probably will.  What this means is that, unless this game rocks beyond all measure for EVERYONE playing it, its gonna bomb even harder as it will have less users capable of playing.

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Originally posted by HashBrick

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

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Originally posted by Brenics

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Originally posted by Fadedbomb

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Originally posted by Brenics

Hate to tell you this but the starter area is the first big area to immerse people into the game. If you fail here you need to work even harder after it.

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The reason they did it like this is because their free trial system will consist of unlimited access to the Tortage area 1-20. If and when you want to buy and play the REAL game, you then gain access to the whole game post 20.

This is the main reason once you get 1 toon to 20+, all your toons after that will start at 20 if you choose.

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This was the most stupid thing they could have done and it shouldn't matter what you get in the retail package. The starter area is where you want to leave the customer with a great impression. All they have done was create nothing but bad press for them self. Maybe they can get out of it like they did AO or maybe they won't but right now a lot of pre-orders are being canceled and they can only blame them selves.

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Says you, but over 15,000 people on the AoC forums have been given a great impression. Maybe you should look up the number of pre-orders that have been placed since the OB started?
Honestly, do research before posting your personal opinion as fact. You'll sound less like the "word of god".

I however, am getting tired of all the crybabies and children trying to bash a game I have come to love, and then go back to their WoW or WAR forums and start threads like "AoC has fallen like a sack of potatoes, WAR GREEN LIGHT!".

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If you love the god damn thing so much go play it and stop trying to woe others into your mind. You are either posting in between crashes or can't play it solid enough or you wouldn't be here.
That being said most players judge an MMO on the first 10 levels this gives them an idea on the battle system and how it will pan out.
If you hate AoC's battle system well then you can figure that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you hate the quest setup you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you hate how your machine runs it you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
If you don't like the UI you can find that out the first 1-13 levels.
Obviously there is a reason why people are pulling away from the game, good for you and your guild their buddy glad you think you have some sort of superiority over everyone else cause your "guild" loves it. Stop being a damn fanboi and just accept that fact that any game can be judged the first couple hours, period.

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Actually im in the middle of my IST291 college class atm.
-People who judge a game on the first 10 levels shouldn't be playing anything other than WoW.
-I don't hate the quest setup, it's actually really well done for being in the unpolished old client state that it's in. (Release client is atleast 3 builds ahead of open beta). People who hate the quest system are generally WAR fans, I won't bash them because atleast WAR didn't ripoff WoW like the reverse happened.
-My $600ish dollar machine runs AoC really well on HIGH tab settings. I enjoy myself playing at the moment, but leveling 8 toons 1-13 is getting tedious until saturday (WOOT!). People who are bashing because their comp blows and is more ancient than a 1970 pickup truck have no room to complain in the first place....go buy an xbox.
-Haven't seen a single person bashing the UI at the moment.

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YOU are just further proving my point.

It's YOU YOU YOU, it's what YOU think.

Originally posted by Fadedbomb

I'd honestly love for someone to tell me why EXTROADINARILY negative threads like "WoW >Aoc", "WAR > AoC", "Aoc = GW", or even "AoC = needs a language filter and nudity turned off for everyone" and no one really flaming the OP, and is generally accepted.

 

However, when someone trys to defend AoC from these fanbois and children they are looked upon and immature and fools? Yet the afformentioned threads completely setting fire to AoC are based upon zero and assumed information that is completely false are considered truthful and holy??

 

Where have all the intelectually respondant people gone in the gaming world? Has everyone absolutely lost their mind or has WoW created a mentality that creates hateful and negative individuals? I'm not really trying to flame WoW whatsoever (would make me a hypocrit), however....it just seems so difficult to think otherwise considering the first day AoC open beta started there were literally 29 WoW > AoC threads up with over 600 WoW fans attacking people who even like the conan genre.

 

because the premise of your argument is based off of something imaginary which we have not esperienced. Our experiences are reflective of a moment in gaming time which we can objectively call "facts" in our own beleifs, having the full experience from levels 1-13. Unfortunately this also present us with a conundrum, we are being influenced by what Funcom wants us to experience, and this is yet unknown to the general masses on how further experiences may alter our game's reality.

The fact is, people's experience in the tutorial portion of the game are the said person's hard facts. We have experienced this for ourselves. Funcom, by their own admittance, also states that this tutorial region known as Tortage will give you an ample experience of what the game will be like, and gives you a "taste" of the gaming itself. While i have not been captivated by this region, it does give you insight into the game play, mechanics and stability of said game.

So for me, yes, this was factual, and i can only imagine how the game progresses past level 13, but based on Funcom's excerpts from an interview performed here on mmorpg.com, one can stipulate that this is how gameplay will continue from here on in. SO if I do not enjoy the gameplay now, what, hypothetically, will change in the near future to alter my gaming experience once i fore go the lvl 13 experience?

My truth is based on my reality, as all truths are conceived from perceived, tested, or applied observations. Truths do not apparate from thin air, or an imaginary future.

That answer suffice the non-immature post you were seeking?

If the anti-AOC opinions/posts mad you this mad, and you truly are this happy with the game, and have NO DOUBTS that it will be the best thing ever... then stay out fo the dang forums. A flame for or against is still a frame my friend. I think we have a 15 year old who is taking to much to hear the idea that this is an "adult" game. I was a huge supporter of this game and tried ot get into the beta at every chance. I tried to sell my friends on it. But guess what, they aren't buying. And posts like this won't help bring new people or garner interest in the game. as someone said, let us know which server you're on so we can stay off it. Not to do you any favors, but for our own sanity and enjoyment.

 And if it really takes only a couple hours to max to 20 and get all oyu can out of the area, then how can oyu possibly know that the remaining 1000 hours they wnat you to put into it will be worth it? Wait... stop trying to ask for common sense and thought from a flamer... dang, i always fall for it!

LOL OP you are pure comedy.

Not only is your post FAIL but Funcom not realising that to keep customers you have to catch peoples interest in the first 20 levels.

What planet do you live on where people will put up with the first 20 LEVELS of a game being total crap!??

Dream on.

Funcom = FAIL