All of this talk got me thinking about my most memorable first moments have been.

  WoW really has that slot, because I chose to be an orc....and one of the first quests you do there revolves around taking a blackjack, and beating peons over the head with it to wake them up.  Bloody loved it.

  That aside, we've been trolled.  Even if we HADN'T, what he said was pretty standard MMO stuff. 

Actually that article is from CVG/PC Zone not PC Gamer. But we get the idea.

it like that in every mmorpg ,grind grind grind it not new.

beside,the newbie zone is always like that!

and depend what you play,(race) it can be boring

and i dont know but check WoW it the same grind over and over again.

War is coming,i hope it will be good ,dont trust like other said ,it just their opinion.

I read the same article. My eyebrow raised also as to why the writer would say why the game is good after 10 min. Well first off the game isnt finished. 2nd is why anyone would judge a game after 10 min of play.  if i judged EVE online in the 1st 10 min id've quit due to the complexities and menus within menus. You cant judge a game by the 1st 10 min.

Originally posted by bobtheblob

The article then goes on the complain about only having two skills at the start making the combat boring!

Geez... What do these guys want...

However the rest of the article is generally positive, mainly explaining why you should play WAR and so on.

Maybe you should have used this as the thread title?

Heh thats what I did with EVE though I did make it out to into space but I couldn't quite graps the controls. Seems like it would be a fun game though.

Edit: Ment to quote Krazyjoel

Originally posted by uncus

Hell, I'm more disturbed at the reviewer's lack of English proficiency!  Wtf are "pur" and "elevn"?  Is that "Pure" or "Your"; is it "eleven" or "Elven?" And.  the.  fragments. are Shatner-worthy!

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't take that reviewer seriously with those glaring grammatical mistakes!

Guess he's just been playing mmo's too long. 

I don't know guys, I would think the first 10 minutes of any new game are supposed to grab me and make me itch for more.  Sounds like it sucks.

Originally posted by greymann

 

Originally posted by uncus

Hell, I'm more disturbed at the reviewer's lack of English proficiency!  Wtf are "pur" and "elevn"?  Is that "Pure" or "Your"; is it "eleven" or "Elven?" And.  the.  fragments. are Shatner-worthy!

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't take that reviewer seriously with those glaring grammatical mistakes!

 

Guess he's just been playing mmo's too long. 

I don't know guys, I would think the first 10 minutes of any new game are supposed to grab me and make me itch for more.  Sounds like it sucks.

Giving a player a number in your quest, such as "Collect 7 of these or Kill 9 of those" is just bad. Instead, it should start out like "There is this local Bandit Lord in the nearby caves. I want you to prove your worth to our village by infliltrating his ranks and assassinating the Bandit Lord. Or, if you are so bold, just wipe them all out. I will pay you a sum of 50s if you are successful and will let you choose another reward from our village vault." By doing this, it allows the new person the freedom to do as he chooses (infiltrate or kill them all) and accomplishes the same thing as the kill quest. After all, he will probably kill 9 bandits during this quest anyways.

Originally posted by bobtheblob

Just read a preview in this months Pc Gamer UK and here are a few intersting lines: "Your first 10 minutes in WAr are abysmal. And thats a shame, because there's real potential here. Pur premade character was dumped beside a massive boat on a drab island. There are buzzing fairies ahead, elevn sailors to your left and a path to the right. In front a quest master :" Kill four fairies, Kill six sailors. Go and meet my friend"

Welcome to the grind, stay here forever"

The article then goes on the complain about only having two skills at the start making the combat boring!

However the rest of the article is generally positive, mainly explaining why you should play WAR and so on.

However it makes me wonder what the previewer was looking for when he was preveiwing an mmo?! Anyways what do you guys think of what i have quoted? Does not concern me too much its what i expect from an mmo!

Source link???

Where is this article, I can't find it on PCGamer uk, is it print only? There is nothing about WAR mentioned on the cover.

One would think a WAR "preview" months ahead of release, would be sort of a big deal....

Doom cat already uncovered the OPs topic as fake and a troll. I think the "real" article is:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=187710

OP is AoC fanbois upset that AoC is pure FAIL.

Sorry OP we can't get your pre-order money back for AoC.  You should of listened to the bad reviews lol

Originally posted by Celestian

Doom cat already uncovered the OPs topic as fake and a troll. I think the "real" article is:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=187710

Ah....my bad.

I just read the first post and was like..."well where is the article?"....

He must be in the AoC beta and having nothing better to do with his screen loading time and crashes then pick on other unreleased games.

Anyway,

Thanks

I stopped getting PC Gamer years ago the magazine was just full of in jokes and the reviewers kept on bitching about they had to review what they got given by the editor and frankly if it wasn't a FPS game it was unlikely it would get anything about 5/10.

This magazine has a 2 month lead time on it so what they are reporting on is now over 8 weeks old.

This is why I saved my money by not getting this rubbish magazine and use the internet for demos/ and trials.

Originally posted by Kilmar

The first moments are very important in a MMO, devs should never offer a kill task as first quest.

The success of WoW says differently, and the vast majority of quests in WoW, including the starting ones, are either "kill 10 of X creature" or "kill X creature and loot 10 of item Y from it"

Originally posted by bobtheblob

Just read a preview in this months Pc Gamer UK and here are a few intersting lines: "Your first 10 minutes in WAr are abysmal. And thats a shame, because there's real potential here. Pur premade character was dumped beside a massive boat on a drab island. There are buzzing fairies ahead, elevn sailors to your left and a path to the right. In front a quest master :" Kill four fairies, Kill six sailors. Go and meet my friend"

Welcome to the grind, stay here forever"

The article then goes on the complain about only having two skills at the start making the combat boring!

However the rest of the article is generally positive, mainly explaining why you should play WAR and so on.

However it makes me wonder what the previewer was looking for when he was preveiwing an mmo?! Anyways what do you guys think of what i have quoted? Does not concern me too much its what i expect from an mmo!

Ever heard of Wow, DAOC, EQ, PS for freak sakes. Pretty much starting zone, he doesn't say the game was not fun for reason related to game play but what, i only have like two moves to start with.... And it is called character development.

He is totally , missing that the "grind" in this game really does help your side defeat the other side. Makign it not totally arbitrary.

That being said , the first quests should be hella fun and anyoen not saying so is misguided i believe.

The first quest should be intensive etc. I think what DAOC has now, but for war it should be a pvp or hostial npc area where you have to fight or RUN through to get to safty of a boat or wagon, Arc, etc that takes you to the starting areas, this would really get people invloved in not only the game but defeating their mortal enemies.

That and abbaba makes a good point, sometimes its better to underwhelm new players than overwhelm them. Crazy dynamic quests off the bat... possibly confusing. (I disagree but im an experienced gameplayer, and well many are not).

Originally posted by uncus

Hell, I'm more disturbed at the reviewer's lack of English proficiency!  Wtf are "pur" and "elevn"?  Is that "Pure" or "Your"; is it "eleven" or "Elven?" And.  the.  fragments. are Shatner-worthy!

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't take that reviewer seriously with those glaring grammatical mistakes!

However, I played the first 10 minutes of the game when they had stands setup at Origins the past two years (and they'll be there again this year).  The first 10 minutes to me were fun.  Not revolutionary.  Yet, it was fun.  In fact, I will go so far as to say that I had the feeling that WAR may give me that feeling of "awe" that most get from their first MMO.  However, it may just have been because I got that little sneak peak at Origins and I'm already on a gamer's high from that...I guess I'll see this fall when I play it.

More than likely, every race has a different starting scenerio. Or course, some will be more developed than others.

What's the purpose of this post anyway?

Originally posted by Vortigon

OP is AoC fanbois upset that AoC is pure FAIL.

Sorry OP we can't get your pre-order money back for AoC.  You should of listened to the bad reviews lol

AoC is not pure FAIL.  You are pure FAIL.  The OP was just relaying information he read in an article.  What is the matter with you?  I feel like you need to get out more, or try out maybe something other than MMO's for a while.  You definitely shouldn't be around posting on forums...

We all know WAR is going to be a very successful and awesome game.  There is no reason to get all worked up.  He was just relaying information which was about the first 10 minutes of a game with a ridiculous amount of time until launch.  There is no reason to get upset, or defensive. 

AOC is not pure fail......

question is, if those 10 minutes reflect the rest of the game....

If the "Hi kill 4 fairies and 2 sailors, then go see my friend" sets the baseline for the quests in the game.

If it is, then you're looking at a average normal game, with its only extra features a Public Quest system where only the DPS'ers get rewarded, and battlefields where only the zerg wins.