Age of Conan

I agree wait to pass judgement you dont even have to buy it. They are giving 5 free buddy passes to players that buy the CE so alot of players will get to try it first with out having to buy it. atleats alot of players that really want to give it a chance.

Open beta before the release IS the FINAL GAME. Accept it, its been that way for the past 6 some years, live with it. AoC will be buggy and laggy on release.

Originally posted by SignusM

Open beta before the release IS the FINAL GAME. Accept it, its been that way for the past 6 some years, live with it. AoC will be buggy and laggy on release.

People need to accept the Closed Beta runs alot better and that the OB plays out completly different for the most part. Sure there are bugs, but nothing like some of major ones in OB.

Just because some other companies in the past have used their open beta client as their release client, doesn't mean that it's what Funcom is going to do. The open beta client is older than the pvp beta client, and the new closed beta client is much, much better, trust me. -_o

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by SignusM

Open beta before the release IS the FINAL GAME. Accept it, its been that way for the past 6 some years, live with it. AoC will be buggy and laggy on release.

People need to accept the Closed Beta runs alot better and that the OB plays out completly different for the most part. Sure there are bugs, but nothing like some of major ones in OB.

 No one wants to belive the closed beta players because they think the a open beta is the final cut . guess what if you belive this you are dead wrong. closed beta is way better then the open sorry that FunCom used the open beta as just that a beta. they are debugging and strest testing what  a bad company they are for trying to make the game better at launch for paying players.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by SignusM

Open beta before the release IS the FINAL GAME. Accept it, its been that way for the past 6 some years, live with it. AoC will be buggy and laggy on release.

People need to accept the Closed Beta runs alot better and that the OB plays out completly different for the most part. Sure there are bugs, but nothing like some of major ones in OB.

We all here know that unforseen things can go wrong, hell I was there on that fateful night in Ao when peoples houses decided to eat everything stored in them.  This was quickly hotfixed with a patch that stopped any weapon from firing, resulting in many deaths.  30 or so minutes later another hotfix which got the weapons working but that now stopped anyone having access to their homes at all.  An hour or so later and another hotfix which made everything worse and finally a return to the original 'homes eating items' with a warning not to store anything and a prominse it would be fixed in the next couple of days, which it was.  These things happen and are for the most part impossible to predict.   Logic tells me that this is close to what has happened here.  Funcom wanted the OB to be as smooth as possible because word of mouth and 1st impressions are of vital importance.  To achieve this they rang in a few more patches and fixes and one of these somewhere down the line screwed things up.  Unforseeable and unfortunate and has led to a lot of negative and hostile responses to the game.

To try damage limitation by telling everyone it's an old build is even more stupid than using a faulty old client would have been in the first place.  No company wants to lift an NDA on a build that is going to result in bad reviews but that is exactly what we are being asked to believe.   The client is running okay for some people and really badly for others so this is not serverside latency as that would affect everyone, it's clientside and that means less than perfect performance on some system configurations.  How long it will take to track down just what the problem is amongst that mass of code is anyones guess and sooner or later it WILL be tracked down and fixed, but to come out and pretty much admit to being the dumbest developer on the planet by releasing an old client to OB with the NDA lifted is like asking us to believe in pretty pink fairies at the bottom of the garden.

I am not bashing Funcom or AoC here apart from the fact their customer relations machine appears to have blown it's engine and lost the plot.  I firmly believe that FC thought this client was good to go and that some horrible aspect has popped up that they in no way could have predicted beforehand and that's fair enough, as I said earlier these things happen.  But be truthful about it for god's sake.  When are these companies going to finally get the message that if they tell the truth and admit to the failings then players on the whole can be quite a forgiving lot, even down to having a laugh at it at times.  But treating us like morons with fairy stories is just insulting and people do not forgive insults anywhere near as easily as they forgive honest human error.

Originally posted by eric1000

 

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by SignusM

Open beta before the release IS the FINAL GAME. Accept it, its been that way for the past 6 some years, live with it. AoC will be buggy and laggy on release.

People need to accept the Closed Beta runs alot better and that the OB plays out completly different for the most part. Sure there are bugs, but nothing like some of major ones in OB.

This Avery is what is so confusing.  If the CB client is so much better than the OB client then why the hell didn't they use it for OB?  All this smoke and mirrors about it being an old client with debuggers etc. etc. just doesn't ring true because frankly it makes no sense.

 

 

We all here know that unforseen things can go wrong, hell I was there on that fateful night in Ao when peoples houses decided to eat everything stored in them.  This was quickly hotfixed with a patch that stopped any weapon from firing, resulting in many deaths.  30 or so minutes later another hotfix which got the weapons working but that now stopped anyone having access to their homes at all.  An hour or so later and another hotfix which made everything worse and finally a return to the original 'homes eating items' with a warning not to store anything and a prominse it would be fixed in the next couple of days, which it was.  These things happen and are for the most part impossible to predict.   Logic tells me that this is close to what has happened here.  Funcom wanted the OB to be as smooth as possible because word of mouth and 1st impressions are of vital importance.  To achieve this they rang in a few more patches and fixes and one of these somewhere down the line screwed things up.  Unforseeable and unfortunate and has led to a lot of negative and hostile responses to the game.

 

To try damage limitation by telling everyone it's an old build is even more stupid than using a faulty old client would have been in the first place.  No company wants to lift an NDA on a build that is going to result in bad reviews but that is exactly what we are being asked to believe.   The client is running okay for some people and really badly for others so this is not serverside latency as that would affect everyone, it's clientside and that means less than perfect performance on some system configurations.  How long it will take to track down just what the problem is amongst that mass of code is anyones guess and sooner or later it WILL be tracked down and fixed, but to come out and pretty much admit to being the dumbest developer on the planet by releasing an old client to OB with the NDA lifted is like asking us to believe in pretty pink fairies at the bottom of the garden.

 

I am not bashing Funcom or AoC here apart from the fact their customer relations machine appears to have blown it's engine and lost the plot.  I firmly believe that FC thought this client was good to go and that some horrible aspect has popped up that they in no way could have predicted beforehand and that's fair enough, as I said earlier these things happen.  But be truthful about it for god's sake.  When are these companies going to finally get the message that if they tell the truth and admit to the failings then players on the whole can be quite a forgiving lot, even down to having a laugh at it at times.  But treating us like morons with fairy stories is just insulting and people do not forgive insults anywhere near as easily as they forgive honest human error.

 We are in closed beta its TRUE! I dont know why they did this but they must have there reasons. the closed beta is a way better build Belive it or not?

DeadJester, I believe you mate.  What I'm saying is that Funcom took that CB client, made a few more fixes and released it to OB.  One or more of these small tweaks is causing the problems and that's something that could not reasonably have been predicted, but to try and cover that by saying it's an old client is so stupid that it's beyond belief, although some here appear to have swallowed it.

In order to believe that line we would have to also believe that Funcom are not concerned with all the bad feedback a faulty client would bring and I don't think FC are that dumb to be honest.