you do know that the game is stress testing atm

Originally posted by DJDizzy

you do know that the game is stress testing atm

  I dont think a stress test is going to get rid of level loads and cut scenes :p .

he complained about the lag in the post iirc

Originally posted by Bama1267

Originally posted by DJDizzy

you do know that the game is stress testing atm

  I dont think a stress test is going to get rid of level loads and cut scenes :p .

Levels 1-20 feels much like a single player game according to the Devs, after 20 this part is over (remember 1-20 was originally intended to be completely single player based) and there is a lot more instancing and streamed loads, instead of the loading screens.

you will come back after the raving reviews after release :p

Actually if you pay attention to the "KNOWN ISSUES" in the beta they talk to the level load times and state they are in process of resolving them.

A lot can happen in three weeks with coders working round the clock. This is a STRESS TEST beta with some 50k people on limited servers crammed into the same zones.

If you call a game done for you when it is still in beta you should stay out of them and instead do a free trial when it is released. The point of beta, even open, is to uncover and fix the issues.

It is also true, and stated in many, many places that the first 20 levels are more like a single player RPG and are designed to be such to introduce you to all the mechanics and stuff before sending you off into the wild world and all the possibilities in PVP, etc.

My personal taste, I rather like it when it focuses in on an NPC dialogue. It feels more like they are actually talking to you instead of the crowd and it has voice overs which so far (except the slaver guy who sounds like Edna Mole) are pretty good. Voice acting is more immersive to me then reading two pages of text. That is just the way I see it though.

Originally posted by JaeSwift

 

Originally posted by Bama1267

Originally posted by DJDizzy

you do know that the game is stress testing atm

  I dont think a stress test is going to get rid of level loads and cut scenes :p .

Hi. You made the same post on the official forums, I'll give you the same reply here:

 

Levels 1-20 feels much like a single player game according to the Devs, after 20 this part is over (remember 1-20 was originally intended to be completely single player based) and there is a lot more instancing and streamed loads, instead of the loading screens.

  You must mean OP because I didnt make any posts on the official forums

For now, I agree with the OP and will not be buying the game at release. However, I will wait to see what the reviews are a few months after release.

There are also too many differing opinions on whether what we "see" now is what we will "see" when the game releases. I would rather just wait and see what everyone says after playing the game for a few months.

lol i would most definetly give up the non-load screens for better graphics, graphics is what makes the game not the load screens...or else you end up playing a cartoon game like..well everybody knows that answer...

Originally posted by DJDizzy

he complained about the lag in the post iirc

  He said that could probably be fixed.

Originally posted by Railgunner

Uninstalling and won't be buying the game, here's why...

#1 Constant level loads. I mean, come on. We pretty much had seamless worlds (other than dungeon instances) in WOW, LOTRO, even Vanguard. WOW had a seamless world three years ago. Going back to constant level loads is a huge step backwards in technology. I played 3 hours tonight and bet I endured 100 level loads. Everything else in the game could probably be fixed, the lag, the DC's, but the constant level loading won't be, and this is a killer for me. The game has so much level loading it does not even feel like a MMO. When will MMO developers get that graphics don't make an MMO, game play does. If this kind of level loading for the sake of nice graphics is the "new" direction for MMO's, then I may never play one again.

#2 Cut scenes/Dialogs any time you talk to an NPC. Hate it. Again, it takes you "out of the game" and kills the feeling of being "in" a virtual world. I don't want to have to read all that crap and click answer 1, answer 2, answer 3 just to be asked another question, then another, then another, just to get an idea what I need to do for the quest.

/signed

The constant level loads is so annoying. You never get the feeling youre taking part of a open world in Age of Conan, more like youre hands is tied to your back. No freedom whatsoever. If you want an open world and the feeling such a world brings then Age of Conan isnt a game for you. WoW is like 100% more freedom then AoC is.

Originally posted by Railgunner

Uninstalling and won't be buying the game, here's why...

#1 Constant level loads. I mean, come on. We pretty much had seamless worlds (other than dungeon instances) in WOW, LOTRO, even Vanguard. WOW had a seamless world three years ago. Going back to constant level loads is a huge step backwards in technology. I played 3 hours tonight and bet I endured 100 level loads. Everything else in the game could probably be fixed, the lag, the DC's, but the constant level loading won't be, and this is a killer for me. The game has so much level loading it does not even feel like a MMO. When will MMO developers get that graphics don't make an MMO, game play does. If this kind of level loading for the sake of nice graphics is the "new" direction for MMO's, then I may never play one again.

#2 Cut scenes/Dialogs any time you talk to an NPC. Hate it. Again, it takes you "out of the game" and kills the feeling of being "in" a virtual world. I don't want to have to read all that crap and click answer 1, answer 2, answer 3 just to be asked another question, then another, then another, just to get an idea what I need to do for the quest.

It's been made rather clear that the load times are so long because of some problem with the OB code. The closed beta doesn't have the problem. As to lots of loads, yea Tortage is like that. Wish I could tell you about beyond tortage but thats still under NDA. But I wouldn't worry.

The cut scenes IMHO is what MAKES the game immersive. It appears your an MMORPG fan, but not an RPG fan. Giving me actual choice and some dialog instead of a wall of text I'm not going to read, IMHO it's a FAR better system. But.. to each their own.

Seriously though, if your biggest problem is all the loading in Tortage, that doesn't seem to be that big a deal to me, and as I said I wouldn't worry about it for the post-tortage game.

Originally posted by Aragon100

 

 

WoW is like 100% more freedom then AoC is.

It's also 100% more generic.

Sorry couldn't help myself. Seriously though, if not being a free roaming open world is THAT big a deal to you, then don't play the game. As I've said it's primarily Tortage that has this problem, and I cant really get into WHY because of the NDA.

The game IS spread out into zones, you cant walk from one to the next seamlessly there is a load. But in closed beta that load is 5 seconds or less, not 5 minutes. So it's much less a pain in the ass. But seriously, if thats your biggest complaint, I'd say AoC is coming along quite good. :)

Originally posted by Aragon100

 

WoW is like 100% more freedom then AoC is.

To do what?  The largest percentage of end game WoW is instanced.

There is not a lot to do in the open world other than gank lowbies, your dailies, and level up again. I have not played AOC yet, so i can't comment on its screens, but to say that WoW is a vast seemless world makes me laugh a lil, considering "most" people spend their time in instances.

Originally posted by Fion

 

Originally posted by Aragon100

 

 

WoW is like 100% more freedom then AoC is.

 

It's also 100% more generic.

 

Sorry couldn't help myself. Seriously though, if not being a free roaming open world is THAT big a deal to you, then don't play the game. As I've said it's primarily Tortage that has this problem, and I cant really get into WHY because of the NDA.

The game IS spread out into zones, you cant walk from one to the next seamlessly there is a load. But in closed beta that load is 5 seconds or less, not 5 minutes. So it's much less a pain in the ass. But seriously, if thats your biggest complaint, I'd say AoC is coming along quite good. :)

I don't know where that came from, because WoW has never been generic. The warcraft series has always had some of the best lore. The game may be dumbed down and dull at times but you can't compare WoW to any of its predecessors. It's not my type of game but it is unique if nothing else.

I always disagree on level 1-20 introducing you to the game in this way. How is it introducing you to anything if you just admited to the actual game being completely different. Also why should players pay monthly for a "single player game" until they reach level 20. It's bad design no matter how you want to look at it. These intro islands really take away from the game, but at least Everquest is over in a couple of levels, this one lasts until you are 20. Does it let you skip it in retail? I'd hate to have to do this for every single character I create.

Finally to the person who says lotro doesn'tt have alot of loading screens. What are you talking about? They are very similar when it comes to the amount of loading screens you have to sit through

I don't like the cutscenes that change your perspective into a hill.  Kinda ruins the effect when you are looking at grass.

Cya, and thank you.

It's amazing how many people aren't smart enough to understand the point of this beta.  Actually no, it's something I've come to accept for the general population.  Most people are just freaking morons and there is nothing that can be done about it.

For the ignorant, this is a damn BETA!  It is meant to fix issues!  I wish I could take a baseball bat and pound it into your dumb thick skulls!  This client is older that the PvP weekend client, it's older than both the general stress test and the technical stress test!  Read what I am saying, read it ten times in a row if that's what it takes for the dumb people to finally understand.  Beta's are meant to fix or lighten all of these problems.  Load times, for all we know, could be half the time in the final client version.  All of the graphical bugs with shadows and Dx10 could be fixed completely at launch.  Quests not starting, quests not finishing, game crashes, etc.  These are things that can be fixed.  It really pisses me off when dumb people get into a beta and expect it to be a trial of the final version of the game.  Latency issues, server lag issues, any instability issues at all.  These are things that can't be fixed.  If you are a beta tester, which you would be if you've played and are complaining, you have to understand that this isn't May 17/May20th.  This isn't the final client.  This isn't what Funcom is releasing.  All this is, is something that will give people problems in the worst situation.  It's meant to help their staff quickly figure things out.  It is supposed to help in fixing problems!!!  How many more times do I have to say that in order for all the dumb people to get it?  Beta is to TEST!!

This is also a MMORPG.  It is meant to be more story driven.  The dialogue is suppose to, and does,  immerse you into the game more than most other MMO's out there.  My loading times are rarely longer than 10 seconds for the longest. RAM is cheap, if you can't afford it, you can't afford this game for a subscription.  Maybe you'd be more happy in a game like WARHAMMER, less story, no over the shoulder dialogue, all you do is get your quest and leave, you don't actually have to press a button to continue through the dialogue.  I have a friend that does the same thing, would it really kill you to actually read through what they are saying?  Rather than clicking next, next, next as fast as you can until it shows up in your quest log. 

And really, do you need reviews to tell you to buy a game?  Are you that dumb that you can't formulate your own opinions by giving it a try yourself?  Are you still in high school?  Do you need your friends to tell you it's good for you to think that it's good?  Is thinking for yourself a little to hard for you?  Go freaking cry somewhere else, I'm tired of dumb people, if you are dumb, don't post here.  If you are offended by the post, that means you are dumb.  If you're not, then obviously you understand, therefor you could be somewhat intelligent.

THIS IS A BETA!!!!!

Originally posted by Marcus-

 

Originally posted by Aragon100

 

WoW is like 100% more freedom then AoC is.

To do what?  The largest percentage of end game WoW is instanced.

 

 

There is not a lot to do in the open world other than gank lowbies, your dailies, and level up again. I have not played AOC yet, so i can't comment on its screens, but to say that WoW is a vast seemless world makes me laugh a lil, considering "most" people spend their time in instances.

The WoW world is seamless, yes there are instances but the world itself is free of those annoying load screens. No matter how much those people make you laugh you make them look smart.

Every MMO I have played ends up with the same thing, ganking shit for better loot, whether that is players or MOBS, doesn't really matter, whether that is in Instances or in the world that basic principle is the foundation of every MMO ever released.

Even EvE which is pretty open as far as what you can do ends up with the same thing eventually, although an MMO with a skill system along the lines of EvE could be interesting, the lack of 'levels' actually made that game better. Pity CCP sucked.

Personally I will put up with the load screens in AoC, I want AoC to be a success not because I want to see it beat WoW but because I want another MMO that provides a good solid gaming experience, and more than anything else, I want it to be FUN, I want to be able to enjoy the game.