Age of Conan

Originally posted by glisson

Originally posted by Stradden

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl  And.. its not a trial client.   U get it ?   Its a scam from start to finish.  

 

I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast.  The more I saw the more I liked it.  And.. you know what...  Blizzard had nothing to hide.

Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...

You dont think Funcom worked out a deal with fileplanet to get the keys for beta they are giving out? Nothing is free, im sure fileplanet gave a small donation to Funcom in the hopes they would sell a bunch of new accounts for poeple that wanted to dessperately try the game.  Now I have no idea how good AoC is as Im not playing it and dont really plan to play it. The fact that the game is due out in a few weeks and they are keeping up the NDA still to me shows the game is unfinished and not worth buying at release. Think of Wow if you could only post about the first 13 levels out of 70 then the game would be completly different than it ends up. First off the first 13 levels can be reached in one day of playing easily. Second there would be no mention of problems that occur at higher end, arena grinding, raiding issues, not enough 5 man content etc. Here we have Aoc a game that is supposed to promise a ton of features from what they have been telling poeple for the last year or so and now we find out they wont allow anyone to see them until after the game is released.  If I hear from poeple  I know that the game is really fun past lvls 1-13.... then I will consider buying it. But for now it sounds like they are trying to hard to hide things.

You know...the game that didn't even have Molten Core when released? No Battlegrounds OR Arena's? Which had promised Housing in the first few content patches and never delievered?

Funny how people still enjoyed that game, eh? Even with horrible Server crashes all throughout the first month. So bad that they had to give out weeks worth of free play to the people to appease them. Loot-bug anyone? How long did it take them to fix it? Oh hey...could you even PLAY the first day? I think it took me about 12 hours to even create an account.

Stop pulling out WoW as a great launch with feature complete. Because it wasn't.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

Again, do you see what he's doing? He's completely ignoring Stradden's post prior to this and pounces on the one thing he -feels- secure about.

 

 

And you -are- wrong. Many of the people from FilePlanet testing AoC are not paying to test the game. They are paying to have a FilePlanet account. Which comes with many more things than just this beta and things these people are probably using and have been using for as long as they have been subscribed.

 

Everyone who simply paid to get into the beta...that's their decision, is it not? Stop making it look like FC twisted their arms to sign up. Particularly when there's now the SECOND contest to win -FREEEEE- Beta spots here on MMORPG.com alone.

Im simply asking questions.  Im free to do so - If you dont like it then ignore it.   Don't understand why u are so bothered to point out something that really isn't that much diffrent than what Im saying.  Its the same facts  - just with the diffrent PR.

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

Again, do you see what he's doing? He's completely ignoring Stradden's post prior to this and pounces on the one thing he -feels- secure about.

 

 

And you -are- wrong. Many of the people from FilePlanet testing AoC are not paying to test the game. They are paying to have a FilePlanet account. Which comes with many more things than just this beta and things these people are probably using and have been using for as long as they have been subscribed.

 

Everyone who simply paid to get into the beta...that's their decision, is it not? Stop making it look like FC twisted their arms to sign up. Particularly when there's now the SECOND contest to win -FREEEEE- Beta spots here on MMORPG.com alone.

And that just goes to show that the 50 k payed subs for "mature" content was a scam to make more money when any player at any age can now get in for free through sites like MMORPG.  

 

Im simply asking questions.  Im free to do so - If you dont like it then ignore it.   Don't understand why u are so bothered to point out something that really isn't that much diffrent than what Im saying.  Its the same facts  - just with the diffrent PR.

But hey, as I said, you keep on pointing to the things you feel so sure about and ignore all the other things.

Also...when did FC ever said they went through FP because of Mature Content? From what I read in the letter they named a host of reasons, but not that one. *smirk*

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

Originally posted by glisson

Originally posted by Stradden

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

You do know that the "open" beta testers are paying custimors of their website. Its 50k ppl  And.. its not a trial client.   U get it ?   Its a scam from start to finish.  

 

I played up to lvl 50 in WOW open beta and I preordered fast.  The more I saw the more I liked it.  And.. you know what...  Blizzard had nothing to hide.

Again, excuse me if I'm wrong, but aren't those testers you mentioned Fileplanet subscribers? Last time I looked, Funcom didn't charge for subs to their site...

You dont think Funcom worked out a deal with fileplanet to get the keys for beta they are giving out? Nothing is free, im sure fileplanet gave a small donation to Funcom in the hopes they would sell a bunch of new accounts for poeple that wanted to dessperately try the game.  Now I have no idea how good AoC is as Im not playing it and dont really plan to play it. The fact that the game is due out in a few weeks and they are keeping up the NDA still to me shows the game is unfinished and not worth buying at release. Think of Wow if you could only post about the first 13 levels out of 70 then the game would be completly different than it ends up. First off the first 13 levels can be reached in one day of playing easily. Second there would be no mention of problems that occur at higher end, arena grinding, raiding issues, not enough 5 man content etc. Here we have Aoc a game that is supposed to promise a ton of features from what they have been telling poeple for the last year or so and now we find out they wont allow anyone to see them until after the game is released.  If I hear from poeple  I know that the game is really fun past lvls 1-13.... then I will consider buying it. But for now it sounds like they are trying to hard to hide things.

Funny that you bring up WoW.

 

 

You know...the game that didn't even have Molten Core when released? No Battlegrounds OR Arena's? Which had promised Housing in the first few content patches and never delievered?

 

Funny how people still enjoyed that game, eh? Even with horrible Server crashes all throughout the first month. So bad that they had to give out weeks worth of free play to the people to appease them. Loot-bug anyone? How long did it take them to fix it? Oh hey...could you even PLAY the first day? I think it took me about 12 hours to even create an account.

 

Stop pulling out WoW as a great launch with feature complete. Because it wasn't.

Your talking total nonsense.  Your blatantly lying here and that should tell the ppl reading this what you are all about.

I played WoW in open beta without any problems - I had no server crashes and so on and so on.  But then - there were alot of servers.  And in diffrent continents.   

Now... who is trying to paint it black atm?

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

Funny how people still enjoyed that game, eh? Even with horrible Server crashes all throughout the first month. So bad that they had to give out weeks worth of free play to the people to appease them. Loot-bug anyone? How long did it take them to fix it? Oh hey...could you even PLAY the first day? I think it took me about 12 hours to even create an account.

Stop pulling out WoW as a great launch with feature complete. Because it wasn't.

I don't think glisson said anything about WoW being a great launch, but it's hard to tell because he doesn't use paragraphs thus making his wall of text very hard to read.

I believe the point he might have been trying to make (when he's not forgetting obvious things like WoW only had 60 levels when it was being developed) was that WoW lifted their NDA before their release.   Blizzard likely did that because they knew they had a strong game.   

I don't think it's entirely fair to use the same comparison to AoC.  Funcom sounds like they just have a different way of doing things and they want to keep the NDA.  But at the same time, why bother having such a restrictive NDA so close to release?  Things should be pretty much finished by now, they shouldn't be worried about any major changes at this point.   It's all going to come out in a month anyway, so why not lift the NDA?  /shrug  It doesn't really matter either way, by the end of May we'll know everything.

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

Originally posted by Alan0n

 

Originally posted by singsofdeath

 

Again, do you see what he's doing? He's completely ignoring Stradden's post prior to this and pounces on the one thing he -feels- secure about.

 

 

And you -are- wrong. Many of the people from FilePlanet testing AoC are not paying to test the game. They are paying to have a FilePlanet account. Which comes with many more things than just this beta and things these people are probably using and have been using for as long as they have been subscribed.

 

Everyone who simply paid to get into the beta...that's their decision, is it not? Stop making it look like FC twisted their arms to sign up. Particularly when there's now the SECOND contest to win -FREEEEE- Beta spots here on MMORPG.com alone.

And that just goes to show that the 50 k payed subs for "mature" content was a scam to make more money when any player at any age can now get in for free through sites like MMORPG.  

 

Im simply asking questions.  Im free to do so - If you dont like it then ignore it.   Don't understand why u are so bothered to point out something that really isn't that much diffrent than what Im saying.  Its the same facts  - just with the diffrent PR.

No. You are saying it is a scam. You are assuming it is a spin to get more money. And you know what, I am perfectly sure that FP is actually doing this to gain more subscribers. Is FC doing this so FP can get more subscribers? I doubt it.

 

 

But hey, as I said, you keep on pointing to the things you feel so sure about and ignore all the other things.

 

Also...when did FC ever said they went through FP because of Mature Content? From what I read in the letter they named a host of reasons, but not that one. *smirk*

Ok, now I could be wrong on that, but that's what I'd like to think

I am really looking forward to this game.

It does set off an alarm when they wont let anyone but journalists talk about level 13+, but it also weeds out retarded assholes who played to level 20 and got bored because, AoC is not like WoW.

I played the PvP beta weekend, I did the first part of the destiny quest, or the whole thing not sure, I had fun, I played the BGs and stuff at 20, it was fun. I only wish that I got to read about the feats and learn the game mechanics a bit more before my time was over.

Stopping the press because people are going to spew garbage and try to sabotage launch(and people do, I don't know why people share their opinions on a game they don't even want to play) is not bad.

AoC probably won have 1mil subs,... it will however, have a decent player base, and will be fun. It has raiding, pvp, player cities, and other shit that.... you as a level 80 player will take part in.

in SWG I know people who only played for player cities and to RP and communicate with other players... AoC will have those and probably, will have a better RP then WoW(I don't RP I think it is boring)

I'm pre-ordering tomorrow, upgrading to 2 gigs of ram, hoping my processor(AMD3500+) is good enough, and just looking forward to leveling to 80, testing game mechanics, and finding what class I want to play. I just wish I knew more about the healing classes and had some footage of healing in pve and pvp.

Originally posted by Alienovrlord

 

 

I don't think glisson said anything about WoW being a great launch, but it's hard to tell because he doesn't use paragraphs thus making his wall of text very hard to read.

I believe the point he might have been trying to make (when he's not forgetting obvious things like WoW only had 60 levels when it was being developed) was that WoW liften their NDA before their release.   Blizzard did that because they knew they had a strong game.   

I don't think it's entirely fair to use the same comparison to AoC, Funcom sounds like they just have a different way of doing things.  But at the same time, why bother having such a restrictive NDA so close to release.  Things should be pretty much finished by now, they shouldn't be worried about any major changes at this point.   It's all going to come out in a month anyway, so why not lift the NDA?  /shrug

But your right - WoW lifted their NDA cause they had a really strong content game on release.  AOC is not lifting their NDA cause their game doesn't.  They are now relying on the journalists to sell this game - not the open beta players cause they wont see much of what has been promised.  And closed beta testers... they havn't seen much of it either =)  But what they have seen is not allowed to be talked about.