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damm europeans getting rippied off because the dollar isn't worth anything anymore

I'm confused, someone help me here.

Dollars = 7 letters/symbols

Dolla's = 7 letters/symbols

So why would someone use such an abbreviation which is not an abbreviation to begin with?

I need this answered, as I have no questions pertaining to the prices or exchange rates because I already understand those.

Ahhh dang.  I think there were people who wanted to pay a higher subscription rate.  I think I read some posts like, 'Are you willing to pay more for higher quality?" 

Maybe some of those people who want to pay more could pay the standard 15 bucks per month and add another 10 bucks as a gratuity somehow. 

Now i have to ask how much will it cost to all latin america? most if not all of us get or products from or via a reseller of USA.

So i could assume we'll get charged 15USD as we usually did in other mmo's or just because they'll be USD games... BUT they state "the rest of the countries" willl pay the EU price... wich will be just to much ... :/

A point i have to make is that IF people actually know something of standar geography they'll charge Mexico as NORTH AMERICA ( canda - usa - mexico )  and not the "NA" they think is canada and usa...

Neway i hope someone knows or... rather think will apply to us.

What's VAT?  That is screwing you EU members lol...

This will be slightly more expensive here in the UK than existing MMO subs - the VAT (Value Added Tax on most goods and services, 17.5% in the UK for those who don't know)) has in the past been built into the £8.99 sub price, whereas now it's added later. Don't know about the sub price in the US and Europe, but I'd be surprised if it was hugely different from existing MMO subs. To be honest I'd expected them to charge more, since that was what they'd hinted at some months ago. Guess for now the market is still calling the shots.

Fact is, the reason localized servers (or goods and services in general) have localized pricing structures is because the cost of the hardware is only one part of the cost of providing. Factors such as paying local lease (for the office space), local wages for admins/helpdesk, local utility charges etc etc. I'm sure if Funcom decided to base its European operations in Albania or Bulgaria their running costs for the Euro servers would be substantially lower, but clearly that's not what they'll be doing (for all kinds of obvious reasons). It will be based in one place, and the price in Europe will reflect that... which is bad news for some of the less wealthy states, but that's probably the case for them with all 'imported' goods.

As for those who advocate buying the US edition and paying the comparatively cheaper monthly subs, the downside would be that you'll have higher ping connecting to more distant servers. May not be much of a difference, but in a game where the combat is fast and reactive, lag will be as much of a killer as the enemy's skill. Add to that the time zone difference (Euro evening players will be on with the after-school crowd in the US) and I guess it's a question of whether it's worth paying a little more for a little more.

Actually the biggest downside is not the latency, it's the unfriendly siege scheduling timing.

Originally posted by sysadmin

 

Originally posted by Kelador

 

Originally posted by sysadmin

Originally posted by Kelador

It will so to try and stop it yes it would be cheaper for someone in Europe to pay in US Dolla's but they are not getting it cheaper! $15 to someone living in the US is the same ammount to them as £15 is to you  if live in the UK. They dont get discounted bread and milk etc lol its all relative.  So it simple terms for example if a loaf of bread costs you £1 in the uk and $1 in the us its not cheaper in fact due to corruncy rates it would cost the american twice as much to by is loaf of bread if he was charged £1.

 

What ? Did you quit school too early? Don't know what currency exchange is? Don't know the price of stuff changes from Country to Country in Europe even if they have the same currency?

Like I said some months before, this game has no future, and one more proof of that is how their finnantial/sales staff is so junior and immature to the point of relasing this information in this way.

 

Ok lets start over i was trying to point out that the arguement over subscription prices is pointless i mean yes it would be cheaper for me to pay in dolla's but does that mean that Funcom shoud charge americans 18/19 dollas per month? I was trying to point out that 15 dolla's to someone who lives and works in america is the same as 15 pounds to someone who lives and works in the UK now dont go saying but if you convert that 15 pounds into dollas i get double because thats the point someone in the US cant do that!

I am Sorry Kelador, I didn't want to be rude. But I understand that people outside Europe think that because we have the same currency we all share the same economic situation. That is wrong. In Europe there are countries where the minimum wage(salary) is 300 Eur and some other countryes there minimum wage is 2000 Eur. For example, Inside the EU 1 beer in one Country migh cost 0.5 Eur and in another it might cost 2.0 Eur.

 

For the average person, 15 Eur for a game monthly fee is not too much, since there are other games with similar fees.

But what I think is wrong and will not be well accepted is the difference beteen the 2 prices, since the monthly fee is an electronic service not a material good , is not even subject of importation fees even if they didn't base their services here in the EU.

If they have higher costs to supply their services here,there  were a lot of other ways to solve this question, but thei did it the worst way....

get over it already, its not like AoC is the only game who has this difference in prices

hell when u look at Anarchy Online, its 15 usd a month or 15 euro a month, now thats a big diff... but i still paid for it (living in Europe) cause i like it

if this game has no future then why bother posting here? bighead =)

sigh no lifetime sub's  I'm out. Y'all have fun

Posters seem to think that $10 in the US is worth the same as £10 in the UK. Obviously they've never heard of inflation.

While the minimum wage in the UK and US may have comparable numbers, it doesnt reflect the high living costs UK citizens face.

£15 is too much IMO.