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salvaje  4/30/08 7:25:21 AM

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I checked my accounts.  All of them.  Every one of them now has a vet trial.  I've not been able to verify this, but I was told that this trial is for 40 days.  I tried to find out for myself but couldn't.

This has to be a total act of final desperation.  40 days, btw, puts this out to the end of the 2nd quarter of 2008.  Given what I'm hearing about the current paid sub number, could this be the last, FINAL, desperate push to get people to come back, or else close it down?

Could be.  I was very unimpressed by their future plans from the recent summit.  They basically gave out vague outlines of 2 publishes, and one foozle instance.  No talk at all about addressing the fundamental core problems with the NGE, nor in addressing the principal reasons why the vets don't like the NGE.

So, lots will be experiencing the NJE.  I tried it myself last night, and it was everything I expected it to be (and less).  Add to this the insult that the elder robe not only has been equaled, but SURPASSED by a new scavenger hunt grind robe (which is ugly as sin) I don't think that this was a very good publish to try to tempt veterans back with.

They never have done this widespread or long a free trial before.  Something is up.

But from my perspective, this is great.  I am all in favor of Blix's terror getting as much exposure to actual players as possible, because I am convinced that it will put off more people from the NGE and SOE.  So, this is a good thing!  They've had over 2 years to fix this mess and have crap little to show for it.

 

 

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m240gulf  4/30/08 7:34:23 AM

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Haha!

 

I know what's happening, this is there final push for legitimacy to prove to LEC that they can still make money (which they won't) before Bioware's new beast comes out; wich coincidentally is scheduled to come out late 2008 or early 2009.

 

Time for $OE to

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Valeran  4/30/08 7:36:28 AM

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Originally posted by salvaje

I checked my accounts.  All of them.  Every one of them now has a vet trial.  I've not been able to verify this, but I was told that this trial is for 40 days.  I tried to find out for myself but couldn't.

This has to be a total act of final desperation.  40 days, btw, puts this out to the end of the 2nd quarter of 2008.  Given what I'm hearing about the current paid sub number, could this be the last, FINAL, desperate push to get people to come back, or else close it down?

Could be.  I was very unimpressed by their future plans from the recent summit.  They basically gave out vague outlines of 2 publishes, and one foozle instance.  No talk at all about addressing the fundamental core problems with the NGE, nor in addressing the principal reasons why the vets don't like the NGE.

So, lots will be experiencing the NJE.  I tried it myself last night, and it was everything I expected it to be (and less).  Add to this the insult that the elder robe not only has been equaled, but SURPASSED by a new scavenger hunt grind robe (which is ugly as sin) I don't think that this was a very good publish to try to tempt veterans back with.

They never have done this widespread or long a free trial before.  Something is up.

But from my perspective, this is great.  I am all in favor of Blix's terror getting as much exposure to actual players as possible, because I am convinced that it will put off more people from the NGE and SOE.  So, this is a good thing!  They've had over 2 years to fix this mess and have crap little to show for it.

 

 

Think of the spin...

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Suvroc  4/30/08 7:40:24 AM

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There''s a truth as hard as steel.

40 days seems a bit much for me, but it's not unheard of. EQ2 offered something along those lines late last year.

I'll have to check my account when I get home from work this evening, but If it is 40 days I'll lmao.

 
m240gulf  4/30/08 7:47:03 AM

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Uh-Oh!!

 

I think I really know what $OE is doing, based on their last poll where I think it topped out at 760 votes and seeing as how $OE themselves have said polls reflect roughly 10% of active population, they are trying to artificially inflate the player base with these kinds of trials.

If you bring up the topic of active player base, they might tell you they have 30k players, but what they don't tell you is that 23k of that 30k are free trials or whatever.

 

I wouldn't put it past $OE if this is what they are doing with these 40 free days.

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salvaje  4/30/08 8:04:36 AM

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Quadrupling their subs overnight (from trials) might make them PR spin, but it won't make them any money at all unless anyone actually pays and stays. 

Chances of that?  Very little.  I messed with the NJE for a while last night, and there is nothing in the NGE now that wasn't there when I quit for good a little less than a year ago to make me reverse that decision.  The vast majority of those who even bother to log in will likely come to the same conclusion I have.

In fact, a lot of what I saw was worse.  For one thing, for 9PM, which is east coast prime time, Bloodfin (which is one of the top 2 "heaviest" servers (I use that term mockingly) was desolate.  It was listed as Medium on the screen, with only Bria also being Medium.

Collection scavenger hunt grinds don't strike me as fun, but if I stayed I'd be forced to do them in order to compete since they reward (as usual) uber no trade loot.  The foozle instances don't interest me at all, especially since they are linear and scripted to the point that they have only a single solution.  So read a guide and press the "IWin" button.  Then you have to do it over and over and over and over so as to get that, you guessed it, loot drop.

Sorry, that's not the "greatest Star Wars story ever told, my own" that I signed up for. 

 

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m240gulf  4/30/08 8:08:35 AM

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I don't think they are hoping, well maybe they are, for people who try the trial to resub, I think it's more of a way to start telling their investors or current player base that they are growing fast with the new publish.  In $OE's mind they think people will say wow, SWG will have 300k subs again in no time and start calling back their friends who quit. 

Not going to happen, but like you said, it's a final act of desperation; they've gone hail marry on this one

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salvaje  4/30/08 8:13:31 AM

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Originally posted by m240gulf

I don't think they are hoping, well maybe they are, for people who try the trial to resub, I think it's more of a way to start telling their investors or current player base that they are growing fast with the new publish.  In $OE's mind they think people will say wow, SWG will have 300k subs again in no time and start calling back their friends who quit. 

Not going to happen, but like you said, it's a final act of desperation; they've gone hail marry on this one

The irony is that if all 300K came back and actually played the servers would explode in flames because they can't possibly handle 1/4th of that due to the flaws in the combat system design :)

 

Visit my blog at:

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I encourage everyone who doubts the word of those who reject the NGE to try it for themselves. http://tryswg.com

Experience for yourself a combat system that doesn't work, a broken UI...

m240gulf  4/30/08 8:15:43 AM

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lol, yeah but don't tell that to the fanbois or $OE

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Sam123jo0123  4/30/08 8:16:05 AM

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