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Secret eh?

Not a bad thing IMO.  After all, I've played most of the MMOGs out there present and past.  TBH sometimes the developer's acceptance of extensive "help" from the audience kills the game.   I'll leave examples up to your imagination - mentioning them will only invite the trolls to bring flame throwers.

It'd be neat to see a developer come out with something completely unexpected for once.  I'm tired of seeing the same game rebranded and tweaked across the cosmos.

=-BR-=

Very amusing, Cybe.

I agree with those that think it's odd timing. It seems just strange to announce your company exists after three years in development and have nothing to show. I don't see the point.

With all of the marketing geniuses here I'm surprised all new developers don't come here to get  ideas from you folks specifically.  Sounds like some of you could create the perfect MMOs... if you had any skills that is.  I'm sorry that being an epic Pally... or "the best at PVP" doesnt qualify you to give input to developers creating a game.

Here is what they are doing folks.... they are creating a buzz.  No more... no less.  They are getting the community talking. And guess what?  It's worked.  Some of you are frothing at the mouth about how this is great or it stinks.  There was one poster that predicted the companies demise in 6 months.  Industry analyst are you?  Nostradamus?  Or just someone that has subscribed to a number of MMOs so therefore you're opinion is one of "experience"? LOL  Show me a marketing or economics degree... I might listen. 

Why announce their game titles and show you what  it is before they want to?  Announcing early doesnt do anyone any good.  I saw big proclamations on Tabula Rasa 3 years before it went into beta.  I had lost interest by then.

They obviously have a couple of products already.  The pictures on the products page are deliberately fuzzy.  Why?  To build a buzz.  To keep you coming back to see when its a little clearer.  Its all about getting people to talk about them, good or bad. 

I, for one, will give any company a shot.  But saying its all crap before you've even heard the idea?  No thanks, I'm not that closed minded.

Have a nice day.

Secret? Creating two MMOGs at once? Without input from gamers? Why do I think "Scam"?

Reminds me of MMOCenter, the guys who were making "The Chronicle", as well as "Africa" , "Phylon" and some other MMOGs all at once, collected preorder money for "The Chronicle" and never released, then folded.

I am confident though that MMORPG.com will take their money and advertise their product , thus getting some members here to waste their monies, without researching the company thoroughly ,like they did not  do with "Thrones of Chaos" and "Phylon".

Originally posted by Provokeme

With all of the marketing geniuses here I'm surprised all new developers don't come here to get  ideas from you folks specifically.  Sounds like some of you could create the perfect MMOs... if you had any skills that is.  I'm sorry that being an epic Pally... or "the best at PVP" doesnt qualify you to give input to developers creating a game.

Here is what they are doing folks.... they are creating a buzz.  No more... no less.  They are getting the community talking. And guess what?  It's worked.  Some of you are frothing at the mouth about how this is great or it stinks.  There was one poster that predicted the companies demise in 6 months.  Industry analyst are you?  Nostradamus?  Or just someone that has subscribed to a number of MMOs so therefore you're opinion is one of "experience"? LOL  Show me a marketing or economics degree... I might listen. 

Why announce their game titles and show you what  it is before they want to?  Announcing early doesnt do anyone any good.  I saw big proclamations on Tabula Rasa 3 years before it went into beta.  I had lost interest by then.

They obviously have a couple of products already.  The pictures on the products page are deliberately fuzzy.  Why?  To build a buzz.  To keep you coming back to see when its a little clearer.  Its all about getting people to talk about them, good or bad. 

I, for one, will give any company a shot.  But saying its all crap before you've even heard the idea?  No thanks, I'm not that closed minded.

Have a nice day.

Tough to generate a 'buzz' when you don't have anything to say. But yes, your words will probably revive this thread for a few hours and then it'll die. Sure, people will speculate about what they'll do, this is an MMO forum after all. It's a shame they didn't have something more to show.

Everquest....created with no comunity input.  Sony couldnt give a crap what testers had to say =)

Another semi popular game.....Ultime Online  was created withought comunity input.    And then someone had the bright idea to listen to the playerbase.  And the game was ruined.  Thanks for tram/fel .

Just shut up and see what these guys can do....Nubs

Originally posted by coffee

Originally posted by ZtyX

Really looking forward to this.. They are taking the Darkfall approach and they have a Shadowbane guy.

Good luck guys. I'll be following you with enthusiasm.

 

It seems that finally game developers are starting to understand the fact that a lot of us gamers are tired of the linear crap put out by a lot of companies.

You do realise it all vapor untill we see something.. and taking the darkfall approch.. I assume you mean never intending to release a game and just giving us storys and odd screen shot every few months all the while say Beta is just around he corner. ROFL

KingIsle will fold in the next 6 months.

Originally posted by Naero

Everquest....created with no comunity input.  Sony couldnt give a crap what testers had to say =)

Another semi popular game.....Ultime Online  was created withought comunity input.    And then someone had the bright idea to listen to the playerbase.  And the game was ruined.  Thanks for tram/fel .

Just shut up and see what these guys can do....Nubs

Gamer input = dead game within a year or 2

 well i have a guess on what theyre doing :)

i can think fantasy MMO and pirate MMO, both been done before but i would like to see the spin this company is doing on them.

my proof?:http://www.kingsisle.com/products.html

look at the ship at the top and the blured picture on the left looks like a kings court :)

please dont hate me for posting this :( im not much of a forum person and i dont know if you are interested or not because all you seem to be doing is argueing over community input and developer input vs all out developer.

cant you just get excited that theres a company trying something different in there marketing ideas?

just me then

You guys are funny... I mean, no one have a precise info to be talking about... and why secret is so bad?

I mean, if YOU was developing a game (with a lot of monney put on it) at least you would be preparing your game, to launch in the better performance possible, AND THEN you put the players to test and give their opinions...

All MMOG works this way, why should be different that time?

Oh, some people will say I'm wrong, but I'm sure these people didn't have the chance to give input on any other big-brand MMO like WoW for example...

Blizzard asked for your opinion before dismantle a classic strategy game in another universe?

Rockstar North did a poll to see what you want in the new GTAIV?

The guys from EVE Online, did they hear the people who liked the game the old way?

You see... the only thing here is that this guys announced their COMPANY... soon we will know the truth, there's no point in a discussion like this

By the way, I have a degree in marketing (for those who asked in preview posts), and one thing I can say: no matter if you defend or attack this company, the important is that you're talking about them, and that, my friend, is the objective.

Looking forward to see the games produced by them

(and if you think it's a scam, look at the team and you'll see the truth... no one is charching monney from you,