people still playing UO today.

so ill bet WoW will be running in 10 years too. if blizz  want it of corse.

Originally posted by grimboj

WoW has hit the nail on the head, people leave WoW to take a break, wait for the next expansion or because they get banned but with the 'come back for 10 days free while your mate gets a free month' offer people dont stay away long.

I beg to differ.

Word of Warcraft is not the ultimate MMORPG, it's more like an intro to the genre for a lot of new people. It's current market advantages are that it's simple and easy to get into, and you don't need to spend a fortune to upgrade your PC; and because of that, it has attracted a lot of (simple) people.

Those who want more freedom and open-ended content will look elsewhere for entertainment, as WoW offers only linearity in an archaic level advancement model and equipment-centric design. This was already done in EQ, so there's nothing fresh for old players seeking new content.

The people who play WoW right now aren't from the veteran MUD crowd (those who have played Ultima and EQ), it's all fresh blood. The early gamers still play their favorite games (hence why all the other MMORPGs still have players and survived past WoW's launch). And soon, the WoW populace will get bored with the developer's limitations and search for something fresh, as is the cycle with all video games.

With the first game of any genre you play, you will always have the fondest memories and have enjoyed it the most. When you move on, you will always look back and compare your first experience with new ones (this is also why "everyone" compares WoW to their current game).

As a side note, I compare any future MMORPGs I play with Star Wars Galaxies during its pre-NGE state; and so far, none have measured up to my expectations and WoW was no exception.

World of Warcraft will not last forever and it is fated to suffer a decline in subscriptions when the next big MMORPG hits shelves, even if it offers only slightly enhanced content. Blizzard will either respond through panic and change the game to fit the new standard (and utterly destroy the game by doing so), or continue as they are and fall under the radar like Asheron's Call.

As for my personal experience, I played World of Warcraft at launch and quit a few months afterwards because I kept comparing it to my old favorites. It's a plain and simple game with no spice or complexity to be found... but what better way to introduce a new-born to eating than to feed it bland food?

Myself and many others have outgrown this game, and in time, you will too.

WoW---- We all have tried it, some are still playing it.... there are alot of us that are waiting for that HUGE sandbox game with no limits in lvls, multi-changeable armor crafting so we look different than every other person,land mass that cant be gotten to within a day, oceans to cross, places to actually explore and NOT have the uber portal-jetpowered way of getting someplace, threat of real danger (shades of asherons call),quests that you actually have to think out and that actually change from person to person , group to group..

I cant beleive the laziness in the new gamers i see online. we accept people into our guild and i notice they are complaining that their uber quest add on isnt findin the item they are searching for and showing them a golden trail to the end part of the quest like an SWG tavern finder.... whatever happend to asking  a person you meet "hey  did you happen to find any clues to where the next part of my quest is? or  wheres the enarest tavern or pub to ask for a clue from a shady person sitting in the corner??  remember the days of actually questing???   wasnt the term quest suppose to be sort of epic on its own??  that this leads to that??

I got off into a tangent here and i apologize... but i truely dont wish to see an end to what people are enjoying... If they like WoW and I play wow occationally with friends just to hang with my friends..

I truely hope for a game that uses my brain to think and to create and to explore and to imagine being in such a place.. to battle the unseen forces  and to make a destiny for my friends and myself. to feel as though i have accomplished something by helping create a community..  to me that is gaming as it used to be...  not how many kills ive gotten or the same gear someone else has or same items in my home or guild house...     I hope some of you feel this way as i do         Kwosh   aka player of many games but rarely finding a true  MMORPG

I don't understand the lack of competition and enthusiasm in the MMORPG market. I just don't get it. I guess it has something to do with the gaming industry mimicking the music industry in its inability to adapt to change, trying to squeeze out the most money of each of its customers for the minimum effort and quality possible. Hence all of the crap, yes crap, MMOs out there. Only this year might we have all of two MMOs that are worth mentioning. So thats potentially 3 worthwhile games in...15 years?

I haven't even heard a rumor of a decent game beyond the other MMO that Blizzard is making.

WoW won't die or take a huge hit from a single game, it will be from general erosion to other major IPs and its own repetitive nature. It will take several huge and popular IPs, well done by sincere and devoted fans, with a metric ton of money invested in the games development. AoC simply isn't that big of an IP to become a massive hit. WAR, however, is a much better IP that will probably do quite well.

Now a Harry Potter-verse based MMO... that would be a major hit. I wish EA did not hold the rights to it, and/or that there would be a Peter Jackson of H.P fans at the helm to make sure the game was perfect.

Beyond that, I can't think of any major IPs that haven't been exploited already. There was D@D, LotRO, and Star Trek but they were all handled very poorly.

you forgot the most obvious and the most likely reason it'll die, stupid devs making stupid decisions alienating more and more of the players.

What are you all talking about?  Wolf Quest already killed WoW.

the only way wow will die is if they stuff up an expansion or bring out a wow 2... otherwise people will continue to play it

Originally posted by Talemire

Age of Conan should do the trick

I sincerely hope that the majority of WoW´s fanbase don´t start AoC for my own well being..

i have to agree i really hope no wow players joins into AoC

Originally posted by Rob_dc84

wow will die in couple ways but the only way it will truely die is if someone blows up blizzards servers lol.

the other way is will over time but please everyone post your ideas i wanna hear it all from how much of moron u think i might be all the way to aliens own blizzard and wow will never die.

Originally posted by dongin

Originally posted by Talemire

Age of Conan should do the trick

I sincerely hope that the majority of WoW´s fanbase don´t start AoC..

But, we shall see what happens when AoC comes out because of the fatalities and the gratuitous nudity that will be there I am sure it will attract a plethora or morons.

Originally posted by Drasken

i have to agree i really hope no wow players joins into AoC

Keep dreaming, you really think the kids don't love blood and boobs?

Originally posted by MaeEye

I don't think WoW will die anytime in the next 15 years.  Look at UO and how far it had come.  WoW is more than 45 times the size of UO player base wise and UO is still alive and kicking it. 

 

WoW will have a slow painless death.  NO mmo will kill it, eventually over time it will just lose subscriptions.  I don't know if any other MMO in history will do what WoW did.  I want to think that some new game will, but I'm not even sure if Blizzard can out-do themselves with this game.

 

We all hate on WoW, but it comes down to one thing.  The more people that play a game, the more that complain/love.  So just be happy that WoW happened, it saved the MMO genre, whether you like it or not.

 

WoW didnt save the mmo genre, it opened it up for alot of non-mmo players. MMO's is a niche gamestyle, but WoW put that style into the mainstream. I do agree that WoW will only be killed by time, or maybe if Blizzard severly screw up their expansion, but that scenario is highly unlikely. The only other way to beat WoW off the throne is to make another mmo almost the same as WoW, cause you'll need mass appeal to outsell WoW. And the masses want predictability and easy gameplay.

We all cry for original gameplay and new thinking, but the sad truth is that the few devs that try to do that will either be shot down early by idiot posters/reviewers(see the Requiem CB trolling thread around here as one example) and bad press or the game just wont sell. Bought Psychonauts off Steam a few days ago. Ok, it a platformer, but its one of the most original platformers I've ever played. Its ahead of its time even today and the funny thing is, the game just didnt sell. So, the lesson learned is that originality dont sell. Just look at all those crappy sport games EA pukes out on the market each year. FIFA and Madden is the same game each year just with better graphics and sound, but they still sell in the millions.

the only logical choice is that another mmo will do it. itll be a long time tho. the other choices are dumb..

The only thing that can defeat WoW is the sequal also made by Blizzard

i said it once and ill say it again, wow will die when the 10 million (or however many now) people who play it  die.

   I play WoW. Actively, as well. I'll agree, it is a poor game when you compare it to, say...Pre-NGE SWG...as so many of us do. But I've never found a match...ever. Not within RP standards, or gameplay standards. I joined WoW in hopes of finding a replacement for the previously stated game.. And even though I did not, I still stay. Why? Even with all of the idiots, the spam that, suddenly, became an issue, all of the dying RP giving way to PvP and raiding, and all of that, I've still yet to play a game where it was as enjoyable. In WoW, I can spend every single questing moment alone, and still do well. I can only quest, never speak to another person, and still have fun. I can raid, if I so wish, if I'd like to stay up to gear standards. And, mostly, I still find active RP, something which I've looked for in Lotr, CoX, even EvE, and did not find nearly as easily..or, really, at all.

   I get to play and level, my way, I still can RP, fairly actively, and I can enjoy the Warcraft world, even if there is not much room for true..choice, as far as the gameplay and game world goes. So...I've settled, let's say. I've taken the Club-Footed Duck over the Beautiful Swan, of gaming, basically, because that Swan is long dead. I'll never have my Zabrak Swordmaster back, and I've accepted that. Really, when you think about, it is not that WoW is bad...it's just not what you really want to play. All we can do is -hope- the next great "SWG" comes out; That fabled sandbox...and pray Sony stays the hell away from it...

Originally posted by Talemire

Age of Conan should do the trick

Age of Conan will do very very well but it wont kill WoW

Originally posted by khartman2005

 

Originally posted by dongin

Originally posted by Talemire

Age of Conan should do the trick

I sincerely hope that the majority of WoW´s fanbase don´t start AoC..

I am gonna have to agree with you, I have two mmo accounts right now (Lord of the Rings Online - Lifetime founder and World of Warcraft - montlhy). When I am playing WoW I usually do it solo with all the channels turned off ( I do not belong to a guild). That game has the most immature and that is being nice.

 

 

But, we shall see what happens when AoC comes out because of the fatalities and the gratuitous nudity that will be there I am sure it will attract a plethora or morons.

It is impossible to attract worst morons than in WoW, really, you can trust me. I played few mmorpgs but WoW community is unique. Morons, kids, sponger system in looting, I can talk about technical side too but we are talking about people so lets stick to topic. I really wish to all WoW players (oki, most of them) endless fun, new expansions, new epix, new raids. I wish to you guys all the best but please, do not play other games, kkthxbye.

If you really want to know what will kill it is Blizzard's own WoW killer... the infamous "Project: Hydra"!!!!

They will kill one of their own projects by themselves!!