General Discussion

Hi there

I would like to petition mmorpg.com not to show any more darkfall content. At least remove it from under development. It makes a mockery of real games under development.

I think it is pretty bad for mmorpg.com to participate in the Darkfall scam and to delete critical posts. I had a few deleted or locked already. This way new readers can not see what other people think and be dragged in.

Why is people like Aragon100 allowed to post their fanboy threads for so long and we who have realized this is not a real game, can't have our say?

A game in development for so long and with so little to show for it shouldn't be taken seriously. It is clear they are playing arond with a pet project and are probably trying to rack in cash from an investor. Mmorpg.com is silently supporting this.

It is time for mmorgp.com to take a stand here. Aventurine is joke. They have never produced anything. After 7 years of development they can claim "we show what we want to show", "we decide for ourselves", "we do it in our speed", "we dont have to prove anything!" ... etc.

HOWEVER, mmorpg.com has the right to not buy into this regimen of thinking.. In fact I think this site has a responsibility to not support things like this.

It would really be nice if they took a stand and stopped allowing Aventurine to exploit other people and mmo players specifically!

What Darkfall does is dealing low blows at real games like AoC it is not helping the industry.

Someone should compile all the promises they make; try before you buy, open unlimited world, full pvp ffa, great graphics, etc etc. They have promised so much it is unreal. What they do is that they play on all the things that a lot of this community is dreaming of. A real sandbox mmo.

It is highly manipulative. And the company has nothing to show for it, that couldn't have been created by a schoolkid in a cellar. I have friends who are into 3d and who could do similar stuff on their iMac minis. There are free 3d engines you can download and make similar stuff with.

There has to be some bar, some sort of quality control. Now even more fake games seems to be arising. So it is time for you to remove it from mmorpg.com until the development is taking a turn for the real. And I think we all know deep down, even the hopeful fanboys, that this will never happen.

Take a stand !

Draccan

yep, this game is fucking vaporware

Maybe because there will be hole in MMORPG genre :)

Look around, all latest MMO in development are simplified, linear so named MMORPG.

Originally posted by iZakaroN

Maybe because there will be hole in MMORPG genre :)

Look around, all latest MMO in development are simplified, linear so named MMORPG.

Like...

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...oh damn.

this thread is a joke.

Who are you to say that this game does not have the right to be listed ?

Who are you to decide that any game that is over X years of development is a scam ?

Why don't you support more the smaller developers ? It is expected for a multi-million-dollars funded company with 10-50M$ of budget to take 4 years to develop their MMO ( and even then, many would say that it lacks polish / interest ), with the help of  hundreds developers. But when a small company that has 1/20th of their resources / manpower takes 7 years, it has to be a scam ? Don't be surprised if one day, you wake up in a world where independent developers no longer exist and all you have is fast-food MMOs. You'll be responsible for it.

That you have your doubts in their abilities to finish the game; or that you lost interest, I can understand.

That you actively go on a cruisade against them, I cannot. Especially as they never scammed you or anybody, so it's just conspiracy theory at that time.

Seriously, Nyast has a point.

All of your (Draccan's) points are conjecture and speculation that, say, even a schoolkid could dream up in his spare time.

And as far as I know, there isn't a rule where a game needs a working client to be listed as "under development".  While your enthusiasm to maintain some level of quality in the mmo community is appreciated, I really don't feel trolling on this game based on the reasons you have given accomplish that.

Very poor attempt at trolling.

Sorry you fail.

I want to put a Petition together to get useless Post like this removed as well as the poster from mmorpg.com as these are a waste of bandwith and a big waste of ppl's time.

LOL this game as bad a rep as it has, has every right to be on here just like any other game in development ok so it is long overdue or is it? Maybe they are trying to do what every 1 is asking for and that is to produce something unique? but hey it seems the harder and longer ppl try to produce good games the more they are flamed i say for all those naysayers out there get of ya high horse and give it a rest they are obviously producing something that people like and if it has nothing that you like in it why does it bother you if it releases or not you obviously wont play it anyway.

I am a fan of darkfall.. at least to some extent. But even more i am a supporter of independent game developers, because i wholehearted believe that real innovation can just come from enthusiasts, from independent devs, which have not to follow the mainstream and are not dictated by the big money.

And with your demand just the big companies would be listed at mmorpg,com, because in all honestly, independent teams can not show a lot, and even more, the most of them are in demand to get some investors, and can only get them with a little bit of publicity they can get here at mmorpg.com. You demand(and i can understand it to some extent, because i am also burned out of following games years before they are anywhere near release) would mean, that mmorpg.com could only report about games, which are almost finished(with other words within almost finished beta), because before that time noone can show much more than a few screens, concept and the like. And only the big companies are able to put a lot of money in advertising(cinematic trailers, demoable prototypes, conventions and the like), and all the independent teams would lose the ability to find interest in their concept, and to find some potential investors to realize those concepts finally.

Because in all honestly, you can not start to develop and even more finish the development of a mmorpg without investors you pick up at the way of developing your game. This on the other side is the reasons why a lot of indy projects get canceled during this process, because they are not able to pick up enough investors, and yes in some way we as possible customers and follower of such projects are often than not the ones to suffer. We have to wait for years and in the end get nothing in a lot of circumstances. MMORPGs are nowadays multimillion dollar projects, and take a lot of time, resources and money to be finished, and a lot of them fail and get canceled during those process. But this is the price, which have to be paid for the standards(graphic, size of world, amount of content and overall quality) we are used to. The times of simple muds or simple games, which can be developed from a few committed guys in their garage with little to no money are over, and will never come back.

Nowadays it is a lot harder to become a new Richard Garriot making a game called Akalabeth and become succesful and get the chance to make more and better games with a lot more funding. And sites like mmorpg.com are the plattforms, where new startups and indepentent developers can get enough publicity to make a game and get some potential investors and the money they need to realize it.. they can not make a game with no money nowadays, they have to start with multimillion dollar game.

But on the other side, i guess all those text was just a waste of time, because everyone knows this, and the OP is just another troll to discredit a game and get some attention for whatever reason.

If you want that darkfall get removed from mmorpg.com, then prove that it is a scam, that they take money from their potential customers and do not develop a mmorpg. But the point is you cant, they have never asked about money, and the actually develop a mmorpg, if it is any good, or if it will have all announced features is a completely other question, but is is no scam, not like Mourning/Thrones of Chaos.. which was removed from mmorpg.com.. and that with a very good reason.

But at least you got your lil attention you wanted.