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Kyleran  4/21/08 10:18:23 AM

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Originally posted by Sharpp

I see you didn't mention the bugs that imo were just as bad as Vanguard a year ago. This game will be a similar scenario that VG was when it first released. You will be paying for a beta with shinny graphics and wow type game play.

 

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Bugs? What are these bugs you speak of?  My son and I played 3 characters over the weekend, and he spent a good two or three hours in a PVP session with a vent using team.

We saw 2 bugs during the event, only one was of consequence, and seemed to be restricted to our hardware, as the rest of the group didn't experience it. (video driver I'm suspecting)

No idea if the rest of the game plays as smooth as this PVP preview, but with open beta coming soon we'll get a better idea.

BTW, the graphics are really shinny, I was impressed, and I normally don't care about graphics at all.  Things ran nice and smooth on my laptop (its a pretty good laptop) and I have no complaints about the smoothness so far. 

WOW type game play?  Not really, I felt the combo move system was more like VG, LoTRO or even DAOC, but combat didn't really remind me of WOW.  (well, other than it was a typical MMORPG, but I'm not expecting it to play like EVE.

I'll have to say, I was really on the fence about this game prior to this test, and now I think I'm ready to commit to playing it come release.

Not sure I'll play the open beta, I think I spent too much time in the LotRO OB and it helped burn the game out too quickly for me. 

 

 

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heerobya  4/21/08 10:29:26 AM

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There were.. I think 3 times during a CTF match on... gah what was the name of it.. the CTF map on the top of the list, the Temple looking one....

But there were a few times where I'd somehow end up underneath the level, walking around on nothingness. I could always find a low point in the map and jump through the walls and back into the level.

Also I know a LOT of people on that level figured out how to make the jump right by the flags that cut the distance down you had to run, same thing with the respawn points. Hopefully they change this so you cannot jump up to them.

And I found a few spots where people would stand that would make them "stuck" so that they couldn't take any damage, or dish any out unless they moved. I only saw one person exploit this, a flag carrier who sat in one of these spots until their teammates rezzed and wiped out the opposition.

There was a few times where an ability or even attack direction would bug out and become unusable. I'd simply have to restart the client to repair it.

So yeah, a few bugs here and there.

But that is to be expected.

 
Euthorus  4/21/08 11:47:02 AM

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Good review, nicely done man.  Just bare in mind people that PvP weekend clinet was JUST that - like a closed end game with nothing else in it but the lvl 20 PvP, it was NOT the full game client and so the performance could be maxed out to what the current dev build can deliver with the single aspect of the game in mind.

FUNCOM - putting the FUN in disFUNctional !

l0wryda  4/21/08 12:03:53 PM

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I'm pretty much just adding on to what everybody has said here. From reading all the posts and responses from the general beta testers (im a tech tester) we pretty much have seen nothing yet. Level 20 cap is probably the equiv of being level 20 vs a 70 in wow. Most of the gb testers say that the pvp minigames are a ghostland because world pvp is 10 times more fun. The fact that there aren't factions or sides means 10 neutral guys running into each other in a zone is a brawl fest which is out of control fun. The pve content also seems to be really interesting with instances that can be done in heroic mode similar to wow for the extra challenge, yet easy enough without heroic mode to duo with a friend. I'm glad that aoc has been getting somewhat positive reviews after the pvp weekend, and I can't wait to see what happens when we hit 80 and mess with the feat trees and get better gear.

 
TheArzhAngel  4/21/08 12:30:28 PM

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The necromancer:

The skill "you" used to rais one more Base pet, is a change for one of your spells to activate it if the eney falls. The same goes for the other "specail" pet, the one you didt not get to have, allso a necro spell that have the chance to activat that this pet will rais. 

Beside that, yes the necromancer seem nice, in range and in close combat. But still " No " his damge in spells are waek, for solo play against players. But in the right grp, the necromancer er deadly. 

What will happen latter on i the game "we from the pvp weekend" dont know, but the skills and the abilitys he will get seem damn nice. 

The skill that specialy make the necromancer deadly in close combat is his more or less instent area weakness/ damge nuke. 

 the necromancer.

Beta:
GW, WOW, AOC, DAOC, DOD, L2, VG.
Playd:
GW necro msx, WOW never maxd, DAOC reaver-paladin-cabalist-vamp max, L2 never maxd, VG never maxd.

Play:
Daoc - Paladin. Classic.

Teiman  4/21/08 12:31:41 PM

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Originally posted by Sharpp

I see you didn't mention the bugs that imo were just as bad as Vanguard a year ago. This game will be a similar scenario that VG was when it first released. You will be paying for a beta with shinny graphics and wow type game play.

 

www.youtube.com/watch

I did that in Vanguard, ... :D   In Vanguard is not usefull to cheat, because you can't shot from inside a solid.

I guest once the AoC Dev's  know about this exploit, will modified the shot code, to make it not work if start from a solid.  Will be a small change in something like   isVisible( target ).  

Really fixing that bug will be harder, because could be more about how the game work (the basic architecture) than a small bug.   Is a complex problem, and thats why all games have a  /stuck command, you never really fix all collision bugs.

Have you reported that bug with teh report tool?

 
randomt  4/21/08 12:40:38 PM

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Originally posted by Sharpp

I see you didn't mention the bugs that imo were just as bad as Vanguard a year ago. This game will be a similar scenario that VG was when it first released. You will be paying for a beta with shinny graphics and wow type game play.

No offense man, but you obviously either are good at self-delusion or just havent been around many mmo launches.  Your little text describes just about 99.99999999999% of all mmo launches. Welcome to the world of mmos and pretty much all other software out there.

 

Thumbs-up to Funcom for trying something slightly different from your average crapfeast mmo.

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Fion  4/21/08 3:12:18 PM

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WoW type gameplay LMAO. You weren't even in the PvP beta (or any other betas) were you?

 

Hey you guys who are Necro fans see that video on Youtube with the team of Necros just wasting the other team in a BG? They had all their pets out, and some that summon from procs, etc. They just wasted the other team. It was funny as hell.

One guy goes 'omfg, I'm not even touching this guy. My pets are raping him.' LMAO

 

Anyway, the 'reviews' from the PvP weekend have been almost overwhelmingly positive. There are a few here or there that just didn't enjoy it, and a few trolls and sour fanbois of other MMOGs who are just spewing garbage like that one dude above me. But it appears folks are LOVING AoC. And they've barely scratched the surface of it.

 
Sharpp  4/21/08 3:39:17 PM

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Originally posted by randomt

 

Originally posted by Sharpp

I see you didn't mention the bugs that imo were just as bad as Vanguard a year ago. This game will be a similar scenario that VG was when it first released. You will be paying for a beta with shinny graphics and wow type game play.

 

No offense man, but you obviously either are good at self-delusion or just havent been around many mmo launches.  Your little text describes just about 99.99999999999% of all mmo launches. Welcome to the world of mmos and pretty much all other software out there.

 

Thumbs-up to Funcom for trying something slightly different from your average crapfeast mmo.

Get real !  of course i know their are bugs in mmorpg. AOC will be no different than Vanguard in short ,you will be paying to beta test a game that is no where  near ready for release.

 

 
Sharpp  4/21/08 3:46:06 PM