EVE Online

Coming back to EvE after a longer break - i don't recognise my old game anymore.

It has degenerated somehow, there is so much hate and anger everywhere.

People curse each other in local, 2 years old veterans ganking miners in highsec for no real reason, except for the grief itself.  I witnessed today like a rather new player, only some months in game, lost his his first mining barge, which he safed for quite a while,  in a 0.5, according to the convo in local, the attacker, a senior eve player, didn't gain anything, he just did it for the laugh.  Where has the maturity gone, wasn't this once a game with an average player age of 27 ??

So much hate on the forums, ranting, trolling, so much bitterness.

I don't understand, what happened to EvE ? Why all that negative vibes all of a sudden ?

Really sad to see what happens here.

hate is easier to put on ppl minds and now all got propaganda at lvl 5

Originally posted by Wagrof

Coming back to EvE after a longer break - i don't recognise my old game anymore.

It has degenerated somehow, there is so much hate and anger everywhere.

People curse each other in local, 2 years old veterans ganking miners in highsec for no real reason, except for the grief itself.  I witnessed today like a rather new player, only some months in game, lost his his first mining barge, which he safed for quite a while,  in a 0.5, according to the convo in local, the attacker, a senior eve player, didn't gain anything, he just did it for the laugh.  Where has the maturity gone, wasn't this once a game with an average player age of 27 ??

So much hate on the forums, ranting, trolling, so much bitterness.

I don't understand, what happened to EvE ? Why all that negative vibes all of a sudden ?

Really sad to see what happens here.

well, after all the dev-documented "antics"; nonstop player griefings shouldn't be too much of a shock.

Welcome to the era of the Goonswarm Jihad.  An era where a group of leet-tards got so tired of 0.0 that they continuously make alts for the specific task of ganking carebears in Empire space.  Not only that, but they, like the terrorist name implies, are so hell-bent on bringing anguish toward their "sworn enemy" that they only attack the most defenseless of players.  I expect CCP will do something in the near future to curb this lame practice.

Its pretty pathetic actually and I wouldn't be surprised if the members were investigated under the new EU laws about promoting and organizing terrorism online.

Last thing I would like to say before I get flamed by some of the regulars here, I personally believe CCP should do nothing other than put measures in that would allow some means for players to police this problem.  The current situation needs to be addressed by the players, but the current means *seem* lacking (although they may not be as lacking as I live in 0.0 and don't experience this problem).

Originally posted by Wagrof

Coming back to EvE after a longer break - i don't recognise my old game anymore.

It has degenerated somehow, there is so much hate and anger everywhere.

People curse each other in local, 2 years old veterans ganking miners in highsec for no real reason, except for the grief itself.  I witnessed today like a rather new player, only some months in game, lost his his first mining barge, which he safed for quite a while,  in a 0.5, according to the convo in local, the attacker, a senior eve player, didn't gain anything, he just did it for the laugh.  Where has the maturity gone, wasn't this once a game with an average player age of 27 ??

So much hate on the forums, ranting, trolling, so much bitterness.

I don't understand, what happened to EvE ? Why all that negative vibes all of a sudden ?

Really sad to see what happens here.

What is this mythical EVE you speak off? there has always been smack and random ganks that's just how EVE is.

Eve's just fine, you are over-exaggerating some sort of isolated incidents.  You don't get ganked in empire unless you screw up somehow, and in that case you get what you deserve as EVE is a harsh place.

Been playing for last 11 months and this EVE is the only world I know.  I have friends I hang with, we have means to exact retribution at our disposal, but I will concede atm the rules favor the gankers a bit too much atm, but I'm not really expecting CCP to change it too much.

It isn't as bad as your making it.  Granted, EvE is a very harsh world, but it isn't as bad as you say.  I will put money on it, that that newbie was mining all alone in a belt, someone switched his can, and he stole from it.  Because of that, he gets flagged as a thief and therefore more then likely killed.  Sadly, it is a tactic, and tends to happen alot these days.  It is the same as it was years ago, cept the killing.  People love stealing, and being pirates, and EvE gives them that avenue to do it.  I personally dislike pirates, but then again, I'm careful when I mine and most times, they walk away with nothing and get bored and leave me alone.  He probably didn't know any better and got the short end of the stick.  Such is life in EvE.

Originally posted by Wagrof

Coming back to EvE after a longer break - i don't recognise my old game anymore.

It has degenerated somehow, there is so much hate and anger everywhere.

People curse each other in local, 2 years old veterans ganking miners in highsec for no real reason, except for the grief itself.  I witnessed today like a rather new player, only some months in game, lost his his first mining barge, which he safed for quite a while,  in a 0.5, according to the convo in local, the attacker, a senior eve player, didn't gain anything, he just did it for the laugh.  Where has the maturity gone, wasn't this once a game with an average player age of 27 ??

So much hate on the forums, ranting, trolling, so much bitterness.

I don't understand, what happened to EvE ? Why all that negative vibes all of a sudden ?

Really sad to see what happens here.

A year or so ago they changed the wardec system, effectively making it too expensive to have multiple wardecs and sustain them. They did this as EVE was getting popular and CCP believed this change would help increase subscriptions, I quit myself.

So as a result suicide ganking seems to be on the rise in empire meaning even if you're in an NPC corp you aren't safe. Atleast with the old system NPC corps were a safe haven for those that didn't want to PvP or play in low sec.

I played EVE for over 2 years but believed that when CCP saw they could increase subs by reducing the PvP element in empier I left. Many think I over-reacted but I enjoyed fighting in empire through wardecs, and the increased cost meant I'd have to get another bot account to pay for it. Also the knock on effect of EVE's rise in popularity would be a reduction in the average age and mental age of the player. Out of curiosity what is the highest number of players logged in at one time and when was the last record made?

Its a game where you can you can do what you want with no limitations, which brings out the worst in most of us . Although thankfully not everyone is like that.