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Originally posted by Nightbringe1

 

Originally posted by ProfRed

Yeah cause all single player games, console games, and all non mmorpg games come with free trials and test accounts.  Give me a break.  Open betas were designed to stress test a game and catch any errors that might happen at the actual launch.  These game companies don't owe you anything.

See my prior post  ^

 

Top tier single player games on the PC do give out free demo's of their product to try before you buy. You just need a subscrition to a computer gaming magazine to get them. It's the games that will not allow you to see their product without paying that I am leery of.

So far the pre-order suggest that despite the skeptism of many, there are still hordes of people flocking in to pay for the first bite.  If you intend to wait and see, you will soon have lots of report to read, and lots of information to help you make up your mind one way or another.

 Honestly it amazes me that something that should be a simple truth, namely "try before you buy", is argued and debated.

I agree with OP, it is a matter of principle.

theres sevral upcoming mmos this year im looking forward to trying none i would pay for until after a trial though. getting into betas is alot of bother getting into and then you get a buggy game... trials much better in my opinion, i can see the use of having betas though i just dont have the energy puting work into getting into them.

trial acconts do have a negative side, wont go into speciks  but i assume all who played online games wich have trial acconts have experinces negative aspects of it also. with this taken into consideration im still not paying for a unknown product i want trials.

dont have a issue with trials either they have it or i dont play it on this issue i have all the power hence no problem. alot more games abound then i got time (and yes i dont have a life so i do play alot)

i find that sevral games wich are big popular top tier mmos are relly bad games... well atlest i personally find them relly bad cant speak for the hundred k - millions playing them ofcourse, and in these i just needed 1 week to find out this is not a game a want to play not even if it were F2P.

Originally posted by Orthedos

 

Originally posted by Nightbringe1

 

Originally posted by ProfRed

Yeah cause all single player games, console games, and all non mmorpg games come with free trials and test accounts.  Give me a break.  Open betas were designed to stress test a game and catch any errors that might happen at the actual launch.  These game companies don't owe you anything.

See my prior post  ^

 

Top tier single player games on the PC do give out free demo's of their product to try before you buy. You just need a subscrition to a computer gaming magazine to get them. It's the games that will not allow you to see their product without paying that I am leery of.

Aye you are withholding, that will be a concern of Funcom, if everyone is withholding Funcom will have to do something.  Well I do not hope it comes down to that or no one will invest in game production any more.

 

So far the pre-order suggest that despite the skeptism of many, there are still hordes of people flocking in to pay for the first bite.  If you intend to wait and see, you will soon have lots of report to read, and lots of information to help you make up your mind one way or another.

AoC specifically is not a game I have any interest in, from everything I've read the combat system sounds to much like a consol game for my tastes. No hit against AoC or Funcom with that statement, but I'll be sticking to games that match my personal playstyle. I tend to use trial accounts to find those games though.

If you do not like Funcom what do you expect from a trial?  You should not be the least disturbed about Funcom not offering free trials during launch.

Originally posted by BigMango

 

Originally posted by Lobotomist

/signed

 

I was shocked when i read a post here , written by Korean player. About how they burn Hellgate discs there.

He said " We are not like westerners , we actually take great importance in how we are treated by publishers. And if publisher betrays our trust , the whole gaming community boycots them."

 

Sad , that we let ourselves be treated like dirt , cheated , misled , fall for viral marketing done by fake posters...

 

When it is all so easy

PLAY BEFORE YOU PAY!

 

If you dont let me try your product , you lose me as customer.

 

 

Haha, yes and even more so. Look at the AoC beta, now you have to pay for beta. Instead of using torrent to download the client like many other games do (even wow is using it for everything including game patch downloads with its millions of players) they want the 50'000 beta players to go through the 15$ fileplanet subscription.

-> 15$ x 50'000 = 750'000$

 

/agree

I am not buying any more online games before I can try them out

I fail to see what the point of these constant whine threads are for....I mean all MMO's after so many months offer a free trial.   Totally offing a game for not letting you have a sneak peek or they didn't let you into beta to TEST thats right TEST a version (not even the final one!) of their game is ludacris.  

If you felt cheated by Vanguard or Tabula Rasa  than you must of been blind, deaf, and dumb considering the rampant bad press the game got during & after beta.

If you have to have a free trial then give a game a few months to recoop from launch and play the offered free trial that they all come out with.

    One thing I haven't seen anyone bring up is if you want these companies to have a wide-open beta, i.e. anyone who wants in can get in, or a trial at launch, how much access do you want?  How long of a trial is good enough?  How much content should you be allowed to see?  Should it be like a game demo where you get a level or two, which would be the equivelent of somewhere in the level 10-15 range for most mmos or do you demand that you have access to everything with no limits for a certain amount of time? 

    Since the most common argument seems to be those concerning console game demos and single player PC game demos the solution would make sense to have the mmo equivelent of being restricted to level 10-15, but I can also see, and have seen people throw a fit that they don't have access to the whole game. 

    People seem to want what very few industries anywhere offer, unrestricted access to the content of a game for a period of 7-14 days immediately uppon release or immediately prior to release, and for this to be available to anyone who wants it.   I use the 7-14 days because I still remember the fit throwing the TR started it's 3 day trial.   No other segment of the gaming industry is expected to do this, yet they typically cost as much as an MMO upon launch, so why should MMOs give something that no other segment of their industry (PC gaming) does? 

    I'm not saying that they shouldn't do some kind of trial, but I don't think it has to be immediately upon release, or that everyone should get into a beta, because it is testing, and why should someone who wants to try before they buy be including in testing?  Trials are nice, but they are not a right, just as our money isn't the comany's right to have, both sides make decisions about  how they are going to interact with each other and both sides have to deal with the consequences both good and bad.

Originally posted by niceguy3978

    One thing I haven't seen anyone bring up is if you want these companies to have a wide-open beta, i.e. anyone who wants in can get in, or a trial at launch, how much access do you want?  How long of a trial is good enough?  How much content should you be allowed to see?  Should it be like a game demo where you get a level or two, which would be the equivelent of somewhere in the level 10-15 range for most mmos or do you demand that you have access to everything with no limits for a certain amount of time? 

    Since the most common argument seems to be those concerning console game demos and single player PC game demos the solution would make sense to have the mmo equivelent of being restricted to level 10-15, but I can also see, and have seen p