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Mcgreag  4/15/08 4:59:57 PM

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Originally posted by jakin
I'm confused. What advantage could someone get by looking at the CLIENT source code?

AFAIK the first rule of MMO programming is to not trust the client. If you trust the client data implicitly then you will have hacks of all sort and description.
I just don't understand what could be gained. If all data is checked for validity by the server (as I assume it is given there aren't any real "hacks" in EVE that I'm casually aware of) then decompiling the client gets you what? Graphical data? Communications code?


It does make bot building easier but as said in other places this isn't really news at all because it's not leaked source code, it's decomplied binaries which means any bot builder would probably have decompiled it him self long ago anway.

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Daikoku  4/15/08 5:00:37 PM

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IF you can get a grasp of what data is flowing, and how it's handled there is a LOT one could do with the source code.  For example one could figure out ways to automate tasks in EvE and write the code into a 'hacked' client.  Or if you're even more enterprising you could just transfer the datum from the client to a secondary program that would interact with the client to automate the tasks.  Either way it could cripple the game's economy which is one of the things that make the game work as well as it does.  And that's just one example from the top of my head.

 

 

 
todeswulf  4/15/08 6:41:15 PM

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Originally posted by Daikoku

IF you can get a grasp of what data is flowing, and how it's handled there is a LOT one could do with the source code.  For example one could figure out ways to automate tasks in EvE and write the code into a 'hacked' client.  Or if you're even more enterprising you could just transfer the datum from the client to a secondary program that would interact with the client to automate the tasks.  Either way it could cripple the game's economy which is one of the things that make the game work as well as it does.  And that's just one example from the top of my head.

 

 


Thing is none of that automation will work, if CCP decides to make a few changes to the client and or host you’re back at square 1.

 


It's sad to me that we have the organized CCP hate machine. These yo-yos spread their brand of Fertilizer to anyone who listens, they even have full time Trolls to make sure the EvE entry on Wikipedia keeps its controversy and criticisms section. If you don't like a game don't play, if they did you wrong, vote with you wallet and don't support them anymore, what is going on here is the stuff of long intensive therapy sessions and a prescription of Thorazine to control the irrational anger.

 
funnylumpy  4/15/08 7:43:09 PM

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The best fun is to game with your friends. :)

As for CCP's handling of the case it's typical game western game company reaction do ban people..

However I played EVE-Online for 3  years quited last spring which was after lots of problems with with CCP's ability to fix minor problems and bugs that made things disappear so you had to go through a lenghty 2-3 weeks discussion with them to finally get your stuff back which was rather annoying if it was minor items it would be ok but they found the flaw in the end and corrected it but when these things occur time after time and it takes a long time to get things back I finally had enough.

 

As for todeswulf's posting, there are haters for all games and will always be just let them be it won't make any difference if you start complaining about the ones that complains.

All in all EVE is a medicore game with poor game mechanics it looks dashing nice .. and that's all.. not content just a waste of time and money.

 

It might be worth playing if it were free but paying for tormenting yourself is a BIG no no.


 
Lateris  4/15/08 8:08:55 PM

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I think CCP is doing the right thing in protecting their code. I would not take any chances.

 
Maxximus  4/16/08 3:06:16 AM

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I always find it interesting that MMORPG.COM sometimes chooses to bite the hand that feeds them.

Over the past few weeks, I've been bombarded with banners and "We Want You Back" emails from CCP and I was almost ready to jump back into a tiny little ship and get my ass kicked for awhile.

But then I remembered why I closed my account in the first place...

 
Psilocybine  4/16/08 5:00:58 AM

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Originally posted by Kyleran

 

Originally posted by Psilocybine

I, in a brief moment of idiocy decided to have a look at said Source code...

 

It was just out of curiosity. Im not a coder or whatever i havent got a clue what to do with it i just wanted to see what it was...

 

But low and behold i was banned from Eve.

Countless months of work pissed away due to my stupidity.

But you know what they say "Curiosity killed the Eve character"

 

You Have been warned dont even look at it... dont even look at this thread dont even think about looking at this thread. and so on.

 

Ashamed and pretty pissed

/Psilo

 

Hmm, not that I'm going to bother trying, but how did CCP know that you looked at the source code?

I call shenanigans on your story.

 

I dunno. i didnt think it would happen. I guess they were tracking the torrent download found my IP and banned me. =(

I dnt care anymore im not going back to eve now i know that the cource code has been released... think of the amount of hacks, bots and exploits on their way because of this.

 

/Psilo

 
einexile  4/16/08 5:28:44 AM

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Blandin  4/16/08 5:51:49 AM

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Decompiling copyrighted software is a law violation in most country, who is surprised that CCP takes action?

 

Anyway, all MMO clients have been decompiled by someone to make bots, it's just making it public was a move to hurt the community more than CCP.

 
cmar001  4/16/08 9:33:25 AM

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