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Shannia 4/11/08 9:45:25 PM
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"We''re not making a game for Trekkies" Daron Stinnett, Perpetual Entertainment |
Originally posted by downtoearth At least Dark & Light did something that I doubt we'll see DFO ever do. They actually launched the MMO. Sorry to say it, D&L may have been crooks, but at least they had the nads to show the world what they had, good or bad. Going forward, DFO should just go into a total media blackout until they actually have something. Dev journal #25 is a joke and waste of web space.
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Questionable 4/11/08 10:47:31 PM
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Originally posted by Shannia
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Shannia 4/12/08 2:13:23 AM
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"We''re not making a game for Trekkies" Daron Stinnett, Perpetual Entertainment |
Originally posted by Questionable You are missing my entire point. Trust me, I 100% hate the D&L company because they are two-bit crooks. Make no mistake about it. What anyone with a 1/2 a brain can realize is that D&L did what DFO devs are afraid to do. If DFO was as good as they have claimed over and over, why are they holding back and relying on AI beta testing? They repeatedly said that on at least TWO occasions they were ready to launch the game. If that was the case, why are they holding back? With Mortal Online on the horizon, DFO needs to show their cards or risk being a vaporware footnote in the MMORPG history books.
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Questionable 4/12/08 2:34:18 AM
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Originally posted by Shannia I'll answer that with this question. What can a person do better than AI? Not much and it wouldnt be that much more of an improvement since they already have on-site testers. When players "test" it its usually no more than them just screwing around which is not what their asking for. Their doing things like going over terrain as to make sure you don't fall through, going through quests and then the same quests in a different line up to make sure there isnt a bug, and other such things that people wouldn't want to do and (which we both know) would cause DF some flak because they said they want the game to be near completion/polished stage before they put this into open beta. two? the last one I remember was that content-wise they we're at the stage where they would open beta. Of course I'm probably just forgetting something. As for Mortal Online...well I don't know enough to say anything about it |
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Friction2u 4/12/08 2:35:00 AM
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Originally posted by ShanniaI don't think they are holding back actually. According to Tasos, Darkfall is feature complete and is being beta tested by professional testers. Once it goes into 'playtesting' (notice he calls it playtesting and not open beta testing  ) it will be pretty much the release version without huge ammounts of bugs and missing or unfinished content afflicted upon the poor beta testers (like AoC or WAR for instance).
By the sound of it the 'playtesting' phase could be close so everything will be 'put on the table' then. |
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Ahiles 4/12/08 2:56:34 AM
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Originally posted by Friction2u
Newsflash, all games are tested before release by professional testers, its nothing new. You think aoc and warhammer arnt being tested by mythics and funcoms own internal testers? The difference is both those games have had to be delayed because of the huge feedback they have recieved from beta testers they have invited into the closed beta. Without all those testers invited into the beta both games would have released last year and flopped hardcore.
Aventurine are just taking the piss out of peopels intelligence and contructively putting worlds together to make you think the games is ready or even in development. |
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LondonMagus 4/12/08 3:02:30 AM
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Originally posted by Questionable
What can a person do better than an AI? Quite a lot really since in terms of real intelligence rather than just performing repetetive tasks, even George Bush makes the best AIs today look stupid. Sure, you can program an AI to mindlessly walk up and down the terrain looking for glitches in solid object definition or get them to knock the electrons out of each other using randomised attack combinations, but only humans are best at finding those unforseen loopholes in the rules commonly know as exploits. Also there are the issues that are purely based on social interaction. Can an AI simulate price rigging on valuable items, both farmed & trade-skilled? The other things that AIs can't really subsitute for is the sheer variety of hardware configurations that real human beta-testers would use & speaking as an 8800 graphics card owner, I am more familar with software vs hardware problems than I would like. I would defintely be interested in trying the game, but the claims about substituting a combination of professional beta-testers & AIs sound highly suspicious to me. |
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Friction2u 4/12/08 3:31:14 AM
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Originally posted by AhilesThat's because both games entered open beta in a far-from-finished state. What did the developers think would happen? 
The difference with Darkfall is that the devs will push out a finished game for people to playtest. When was the last time any mmorpg did THAT?!?! |
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