<
>

Page 1 of 3

1

2

3

 Thread (52 posts)
MrVicchio  4/06/08 6:55:35 PM

Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100

Elite Member

Joined: 6/09/04
Posts: 565

To live free is worth dying for.

Now, up to this point, Mythic has been pretty upfront about who they are, what's going on and why.  I salute them for this.

 

They have up until now, been on the up and up, and upfront about controversial decisions such as delays and the like.   I've been a big fan of this.  But when that video clip hit, that oen the dissappearing reappearing player..

 

Yeah, that stealth clip.   I got more then just a bit upset with them.   Everyone KNOWS what a controversial issue stealth is in WAR, and this thread is not to discuss STEALTH but the fact that Mythic is hiding.   (which is punny if you think about it)   Hiding the facts from the fans, from everyone.  I believe they intend not only to add Stealth, but it will be "More" then what little we've seen or know about.

 

Why do I say this?  Simply put, they have been very "No Stealth, at least as you know it" in WAR.   Yet as of last week, I was 99.9% sure there were little or no invisible people shinanigans in WAR.  Now not only have they OPENLY shown this to be the case, they did so at a major press event.   But they erfuse to discuss this, nothings been mentioned, no word out there to alleviate the sudden "GASP!" this let slip from many a fans mouths.

 

That to me says that Stealth isn't just going to show up as a "30 second high energy drain" affair, but will be far more then that.  Otherwise they'd have informed us something about what's going down with this.  They let the fire go out, they let it subside, it's "just a short term stealth, don't worry" and then in 30-45 days we'll learn it's integral as a gameplay element. to "Balance out ranged DPS" or some crap like that.

 

You mark this thread, I'll even dig it back up when I'm proven correct and use it like a trout and smack all who doubt me.

 

(Or... they'll do the same when it proves I am panicing for no reason.  I'll GLADLY take the trout for that to be true)


Originally posted by Recant

Even if WAR doesn't succeed straight away, it's possible it could become a cult hit and grow like EVE online has

Kien  4/06/08 7:07:25 PM

Rank: 17/100 Rank: 17/100 Rank: 17/100 Rank: 17/100 Rank: 17/100

Novice Member

Joined: 1/23/06
Posts: 347

I don't mean to disrespect you feelings about this issue, but I don't understand why it's necessary for Mythic to keep the fanbase 100% informed on every little thing they are trying out. In other words, I don't see this as an issue.

 
MrVicchio  4/06/08 7:09:58 PM

Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100

Elite Member

Joined: 6/09/04
Posts: 565

To live free is worth dying for.

Originally posted by Kien

I don't mean to disrespect you feelings about this issue, but I don't understand why it's necessary for Mythic to keep the fanbase 100% informed on every little thing they are trying out. In other words, I don't see this as an issue.

If we're talking about issues that aren't a major problem, you'd be right.  But this isn't a little thing, so thus the premise of your comment is obliterated in a shower of logic.

 

See how that works?   Besides, saying one thing, then releasing a video showing just the opposite... is a BIG thing.

 

Period.

 


Originally posted by Recant

Even if WAR doesn't succeed straight away, it's possible it could become a cult hit and grow like EVE online has

Pyrostasis  4/06/08 7:10:11 PM

Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 1130

www.
thedarkknights
.com

As Im in beta I cant confirm or deny anything, but lets talk hypothetically for a sec.

Its beta, things come and go, things are tried and canceled. Just because you saw something doesnt mean its in its final form, its going in, or is set in stone.

During this beta things have been added, removed, tweaked, and then completely revamped, stealth in war could be the same way.

altairzq  4/06/08 7:10:41 PM

Rank: 78/100 Rank: 78/100 Rank: 78/100 Rank: 78/100 Rank: 78/100

Hard Core Member

Joined: 7/05/04
Posts: 1809

$$$OE$$$
"We got your game"
(and we screwed it)

And this is one of the very bad things about not having official forums. Everyting is obscure, in shadows. There isn't a direct and clear communication.

 

Of course fanboys love not having official forums. But fanboys are not known by their good reasoning.

 
Pyrostasis  4/06/08 7:13:11 PM

Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 1130

www.
thedarkknights
.com

Well DAOC did well with out an official forums, VN turned into the official forums.

However, I agree, official forums are better than not having them for a variety of reasons.

MrVicchio  4/06/08 7:16:57 PM

Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100 Rank: 85/100

Elite Member

Joined: 6/09/04
Posts: 565

To live free is worth dying for.

Look on most issues, something new they are testing.. no biggie.

 

But don't SHOW IT at a major event and not talk about it.

 

THAT folks i my point, the fact that we know nothing but what's from Paris so far, which is very little.

 

That leads to speculation, it's that what a forum is for?  Yes, yes it is.


Originally posted by Recant

Even if WAR doesn't succeed straight away, it's possible it could become a cult hit and grow like EVE online has

mmonkeyboy  4/06/08 7:18:53 PM

Rank: 15/100 Rank: 15/100 Rank: 15/100 Rank: 15/100 Rank: 15/100

Novice Member

Joined: 3/26/08
Posts: 36

I'm sorry, but unless you've spent several years following the Darkfall forums, you have no clue how bad developer-feedback can be.  (Personally, I believe the Darkfall forums are serving as someone's Ph.D. thesis on how much abuse people will take online, and still keep coming back for more.)

Remember, Mythic has a LOT of stuff on their plate right now, and addressing every controversy about videos, etc. has to have a low priority.  The truth will be known in time.  I would just relax until you hear something official.

 

 
Pyrostasis  4/06/08 7:19:07 PM

Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100 Rank: 76/100

Hard Core Member

Joined: 8/14/04
Posts: 1130

www.
thedarkknights
.com

well the speak frequently at warhammeralliance.com however, as I said, if its still in testing they cant clarify. They also may not want to clarify.

If they wanted it clear, they would have made an announcement. As they have not done so....

Shifty360  4/06/08 8:13:38 PM

Rank: 1/100 Rank: 1/100 Rank: 1/100 Rank: 1/100 Rank: 1/100

Novice Member

Joined: 12/17/07
Posts: 649

They did not introduce the form of stealth commonly seen throughout other MMO's.

What they added is an (as they are calling it) "Ambush" ability.

--- No massive criticals

--- Costs AP to maintain

--- Short duration

 

Of course we all know how "trixy" Mythic is on occasion.

I'm sure they had intentions to add such an ability in the past, but did not refer to it as "stealth" due fact that many people would see the word stealth and get the wrong impression.

Hence all of the "No Stealth" talk.

 

 
elvenangel  4/06/08 8:14:47 PM

Rank: 35/100