Lord of the Rings Online

Originally posted by eccoton

 

Originally posted by ceruthian

I know there is a lot of world of warcraft kids drinking hatorade who troll this forum.

I think they tend to sway others oppinions

I stand to believe that people get so involved into a videogame, and believe their time spent is of such noteworthy praise (im lvl 70 with the best gear, check me out!) that they are unable to open their eyes to a new frontier.

well i can honest to god say, without any hesitation that this is the most polished mmo I have ever played.

I hope some of you open your blinders and turn away from that aging game wow, because before you know it...youll have missed out on several other quality mmorpgs being such dedicated fanboys.......not only this one, but ones in the future.......

This is a great experience.....not perfect, but very very good, and your money will be well spent because their is always something around the corner.

 and truth be told, ive played a ton of mmos including wow and they are all in the same ballpark excluding minor details...what seperates a couple is the experience within the game, the storyline, the grouping, the community, player vs player, and well......just your overall experience......and a lot of games fail to deliver, but this one really gets most of them right (except pvp can be a little tedious, unfair, and boring during certain times of the day)

WoW Kids? First off not all WoW players are kids as you put it. I am in a guild in WoW of well over 60 active players few of which are under 30 I myself am 48. Second if you say LOTRO is the most polished mmo you ever have played then you must not have played to many mmos. I would bet you are new to LOTRO. You talk about it like all the new players do. Your whopping 3 posts may speak to your experience.

 

LOTRO is a good game. Just that, good at best. I just recently canceled my LOTRO subscription and I have been in since beta. I kept my subscription even after finding the game very boring within a few months. However I hardly logged on in months with some hope that my most anticipated mmo would somehow magically transform into the game it could have been. Funny thing, that kiddie game WoW, I am still playing and have since beta.

Whether you like WoW or not, most will say WoW is one of the most polished mmos ever. That is why so many play it. It is the king of polish not LOTRO. Oh yea, why did you have to start your post by insulting WoW players? Also, the new frontier you call LOTRO? That is a laugh, anyone who has played LOTRO even if they love it realize LOTRO is far from a new frontier. In fact it offers nothing new to mmos. LOTRO is a good game. Many love it and still do. However many more tried to love it but have left out of bordom. You are right a lot of games fail to deliver but WoW is not one of them. LOTRO is unfortunately. One more thing, if you try to say I am a LOTRO hater look at my avitar here that I use for my posts. Does it look familar? That is how much I wanted to love LOTRO, I still use my main in LOTRO to represnt me here.

Ok, you love running WoW gear hamster wheel. Some people don't, and I happen to be one of those. Persoanlly I see LOTRO as natural evolution of a product from WoW. Each to its own though, after heavilly raiding and PvP ing at WoW I came to a point where I could do meaningful things only if I was logged for more then three hours in a block. Endgame consisted of griding gear through instances/raids or through areans/bgs.

I still have a good chuckle out of WoW "lore", especially after TBC abandoned all the 20 - 60 instances in order to wipe the slate clean and offer a new hamster wheel. TWLK will do it yet again, for me that is the mentality of so called Asian grinder game but I had fun in WoW until TBC.

WoW vs LOTRO = coffee vs tea, a meaningles discussion subjected to personal tastes.

To summarize my personal taste - Sauron pwns Lich King any day of the week.

Originally posted by eccoton

 

You are right a lot of games fail to deliver but WoW is not one of them. LOTRO is unfortunately.

Meh, after playing WoW for 2 and a half years I see it reversed.  But that is the essence off all of this, to EACH THEIR OWN!

For me WoW failed to deliver on many fronts, refusing to fix AV BG from the obvious Alliance advantages was just one of many. 

They key is at this point LoTRO is providing me entertainment and fun once again.  I, once again, recommend that people at least download the trial and play for 7 days.  Nothing lost if you choose to move on, much more gained if you find value for your dollar as I did.

I played wow from when it was release. I loved that game, before TBC pvp was fun even after TBC came out I still played it up until 1 month ago. The pvp is very fun and nicely done imo, end game is kinda hard for me to sit and waste all night raiding that's kinda boring (for me). I played lotro in the beta and 2 months after release then went back to wow up until 1 month ago  like I said. I picked back up my lotro toon and really enjoy it now much more then wow. There's way more of a story and I feel like I'm actually fighting for something when I do raid which doesn't take all night and don't have to do all the time. The quests are more then just go here kill X many things. Again don't get me wrong I played wow for a very long time and grinded arena,bgs and did some raiding but it just seemed like after every patch it was the same old stuff over and over and lost it's shine just took me a while to see it start to fade. With lotro they are adding new content with new books for free and coming out with a new x-pac soon. Yes wow has a new x-pac coming out soon also but after a month and the new areas where off I'm sure it will seem like the same thing just new gear and more bgs,raid grinding.

Originally posted by eccoton

 Second if you say LOTRO is the most polished mmo you ever have played then you must not have played to many mmos. I would bet you are new to LOTRO. You talk about it like all the new players do. Your whopping 3 posts may speak to your experience.

Wow,  three baseless presumptions to dismiss the OP's opinion right out of the gate. Never a good way to start a rebuttal... not if you want to be taken seriously anyway.

However I hardly logged on in months with some hope that my most anticipated mmo would somehow magically transform into the game it could have been.

"The game it could have been", "The game it should have been"... How many times have we seen people make this comment now? No one person has a monopoly on how the game "should have been".

Let's restate it so it has more credibility and is more reasonable, shall we? The game isn't the way *you personally* wanted/expected it to be. To presume (yet again) that you know how the game "could" have been is bordering on arrogance.

It is the game it is. Unfortunately, it didn't meet your personal expectations. However, do not mistake your personal (or others') expectations as some "standard" for what Turbine should have done with the game.

Funny thing, that kiddie game WoW, I am still playing and have since beta.

Well then wouldn't the logical thing be to stick to WoW since it delivers on what you're looking for?

Whether you like WoW or not, most will say WoW is one of the most polished mmos ever. That is why so many play it.

Well that's just naive generalization. There are *many* reasons people play WoW. From the start, Warcraft has a huge built-in fanbase. There are many who would play anything Warcraft simply because they're fans of the series. Second, Blizzard themself is a popular and highly regarded developer known for, as you stated, creating polished games. Thirdly, WoW is an easy game to play with a considerably low challenge level (arguably until you get to end-game, it seems).

Lastly, there's a phenomenon effect at play. People are drawn to something simply because it's popular and they want to "be part of it". Think Cabbage Patch Kids, Tickle Me Elmo, Furbies, and so forth. People who'd never even *heard* of those before went nuts trying to get their hands on them because they were "the thing to have". I've met/talked to many people who had never heard of Warcrfaft *or* MMOs before, who picked up WoW because it was a phenomenon.

It is the king of polish not LOTRO. Oh yea, why did you have to start your post by insulting WoW players?

Yeah, I agree, the OP's slam on WoW players was also generalization and unnecessary. It's not entirely unfounded either. Not *all* players are like that of course - but a considerable population in WoW certainly deserves that description. Two words: Barrens Chat.

In fact it offers nothing new to mmos. LOTRO is a good game.

Few MMOs do. Although, LoTRO does bring some unique twists into the genre - Session Play, an extensive music system, their implementation of PvP to name a few. Maybe they don't appeal to everyone - but they're still something new and are there for those who do enjoy them.

You are right a lot of games fail to deliver but WoW is not one of them. LOTRO is unfortunately.

Opinion.

I too agree, for the most part, with Die_Scream. LOTRO is a good MMO in it own right. Not perfect but good. It can stand with about any MMO out there. It has blemishes which one could over look as they don't detract from the game. Some blemishes to some people are going to be "bad" and some are going to be acceptable. For me, or anyone, you get what you pay for and what are willing to put up with.

I have a life time subscription to LOTR but I have tried playing it and it is boring.  I guess I need to give it another chance but so far it is like all the MMO's I have been playing.  Soloing is difficult, finding a group is difficult and aggro is bad.  Oh well maybe one day there will be a more balanced game until then LOTR is glood but there are others that are good too.

Originally posted by David_RR

Soloing is difficult...

Actually soloing in LOTRO is very easy.

Originally posted by WSIMike

Originally posted by eccoton

 Second if you say LOTRO is the most polished mmo you ever have played then you must not have played to many mmos. I would bet you are new to LOTRO. You talk about it like all the new players do. Your whopping 3 posts may speak to your experience.

Wow,  three baseless presumptions to dismiss the OP's opinion right out of the gate. Never a good way to start a rebuttal... not if you want to be taken seriously anyway.

However I hardly logged on in months with some hope that my most anticipated mmo would somehow magically transform into the game it could have been.

"The game it could have been", "The game it should have been"... How many times have we seen people make this comment now? No one person has a monopoly on how the game "should have been".

Let's restate it so it has more credibility and is more reasonable, shall we? The game isn't the way *you personally* wanted/expected it to be. To presume (yet again) that you know how the game "could" have been is bordering on arrogance.

It is the game it is. Unfortunately, it didn't meet your personal expectations. However, do not mistake your personal (or others') expectations as some "standard" for what Turbine should have done with the game.

Funny thing, that kiddie game WoW, I am still playing and have since beta.

Well then wouldn't the logical thing be to stick to WoW since what it gives you what you're looking for?

Whether you like WoW or not, most will say WoW is one of the most polished mmos ever. That is why so many play it.

Well that's just naive generalization. There are *many* reasons people play WoW. From the start, Warcraft has a huge built-in fanbase. There are many who would play anything Warcraft simply because they're fans of the series. Second, Blizzard themself is a popular and highly regarded developer known for, as you stated, creating polished games. Thirdly, WoW is an easy game to play with a considerably low challenge level (arguably until you get to end-game, it seems).

Lastly, there's a phenomenon effect at play. People are drawn to something simply because it's popular and they want to "be part of it". Think Cabbage Patch Kids, Tickle Me Elmo, Furbies, and so forth. People who'd never even *heard* of those before went nuts trying to get their hands on them because they were "the thing to have". I've met/talked to many people who had never heard of Warcrfaft *or* MMOs before, who picked up WoW because it was a phenomenon.

It is the king of polish not LOTRO. Oh yea, why did you have to start your post by insulting WoW players?

Yeah, I agree, the OP's slam on WoW players was also generalization and unnecessary. It's not entirely unfounded either. Not *all* players are like that of course - but a considerable population in WoW certainly deserves that description. Two words: Barrens Chat.

In fact it offers nothing new to mmos. LOTRO is a good game.

Few MMOs do. Although, LoTRO does bring some unique twists into the genre - Session Play, an extensive music system, their implementation of PvP to name a few. Maybe they don't appeal to everyone - but they're still something new and are there for those who do enjoy them.

You are right a lot of games fail to deliver but WoW is not one of them. LOTRO is unfortunately.

Opinion.

 

You kind of missed the point. I was writing in generalizations and with an insulting tone to other mmo players, much like the OP. After all your long thought out replies you finally got it in one word at the end "Opinion". Could have saved yourself a whole lot of time by just typing that after you quote my ovbiously generalized reply fill with presumptions. You see, that was the point. Reread the OP the point might be clearer.

I come here to talk about mmos and be entertained by the range of relies. You have a history of long replies pointing out flaws in others posts. That seems to be your enjoyment here. Which is great, makes for a good read. However I think most of the people who post here are pretty smart and can see flaws, sarcasm, humor, trolling, etc, etc, etc. on their own. If you decide to reply could you use red for your relies rather the light blue. Red will make it seem more exciting!