WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by airstrike

Originally posted by Daffid011

 

Originally posted by elvenangel

WoW Stealth in my opinion is the worst stealth ever.  You can't change my mind considering my own experiences during its incredibly unbalanced first year and a half.

  I would have to one up you with DAOC stealth in its early years.  Someone next to you would just die and you never see what did it because the arrow came from half way across the valley or some little smurf would backstab you with a freaking two handed claymore (spear).

 

 

Keep in mind this was Mythic so they might not make the same mistake twice.

 Daoc had better stealth then WoW tbh,and btw claymore isnt a spear  it's a sword

I'm also aware of what a claymore is, but couldn't remember if it was the midgard stealthers could use two handed great swords or two handed great spears.  Either way it was some form of mass weight weapon that front loaded damage and was launched from a surprise attack. 

I actually don't like either stealth system to be honest.  Thieves/assassins or whatever people want to call them are killers, not magicians.  Walking around in broad daylight in the middle of an open field that offers no cover, people shouldn't be allowed to walk around invisible.  I'm a bigger fan of the DnD online stealth system from what little I saw.  It takes environment into account.

Originally posted by Bladin

I was actually sorta looking forward to witch hunters... but not anymore.  I didn't want to play a wow rogue.  I wanted to play a witch hunter.

what do i see?

WoW's talent trees(not in general, but for the WH, combat assassination and sub... lol)

 

You really need to watch the latest videos from Europe at the Paris convention...their Career Mastery system works absolutely NOTHING ilke WoW's skill trees.  I admit when they first announced them months ago I was like wtf trees?!   The presentation on the other hand...ruined any chance of the word 'tree' being properly used.   

Anyway I'm not going to approach your despise for stealth...i dont care for say wow's versions because of all the over powered abilities attached to it ..but I dont think it epically ruins games.  If it hadn't of been for stealth in EQ1 my ranger would of pretty much remained pretty dead when I was sneaking about areas I shouldn't of been.

If they start giving out abilities taht can only be used during stealth I'll definitly be pissed off tho  :)

BTW just how strong against a physical attack should a person be with only cloth on? I mean the witch elf and the witch hunter aren't wearing plate you know. Hell the witch elf is wearing less clothing than anyone!

I'm unsure how any of you managed to see anything resembling stealth in that video, but I trust you when you say that it is so. I must say that I truly rejoice that the decision of Mythic settling upon adding stealth to the game as I consider it to be one of the parts which makes PvP feel alive and dangerous. I'm glad that Mythic didn't stick to their previous statement, but on the other hand I'm a bit worried about this u-turn. It always feels good to know that you can rely on that something they've promised remains as it was promised, but on the other hand it's also quite logical that they may change their minds during the process of creating a game.

I thought they were keeping Stealth out of the game.

It's disappointing to see it manifest in any form.   If it's really that ineffective, why bother at all with it. 

Ah well.

I agree with most of the posts in that "stealth" really is more like "camo". The soul purpose for it is to simply gain the high ground or a more favorable position that you wouldn't be able to get to otherwise (because of opposing forces). I'm totally ok with this. However, I don't know if the WH was the best choice to implement this. Shouldn't characters like shadow warrior/witch elf have it? (if they don't already, not sure)

I read on some other forum that it was needed to end the " Stand off " type thing were groups were just standing outside the range of the enemy groups and the melee were aparently getting minced by ranged class's /casters etc  if they tried to charge so it just became a running in and out of range trying to kite and didnt go anywhere so they needed some form of stealth to get in and mix it up to stop the stand off's !

not sure if i said that clearly or not but im sure you get the idea

personaly ive never had an issue with stealth class's i enjoy playing them there fun but its more fun ganking someone with a range caster and the person doesnt know wtf just hit them so it works both ways i never understand the bitching about stealth ive never had a problem with except for !! THE STEALTH RANGER CLASS in eq2 now that was ***** head meltingly anoying.

And i usualy play caster or hybrid class and tank class's  but i did love my old rogue pre tbc in wow !

But it was much easyer to "Gank" someone unknowingly with a long range pyro so i think the argument aboutb being gank by rogues they are the devil what ever is just bitching every class ganks ranged class's are more anoying and from what ive seen of videos the range you can attack from in war is huge so you might aswell not even sign up if your gonna be pissed about being ganked and not knowing what just hit you.

Another vid showing stealth, this time witch elf.

About 1.10 into the vid.

Stealth in this form is acceptable imo.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jplz7_Fyi64

That video is much better and actually shows something.

Far from complete stealth and very temporary, seeing that she only had it up for a few seconds.

MEh if its like the nightelf shadowblend or whatever from wow, its alright with me.

Originally posted by Shifty360

That video is much better and actually shows something.

Far from complete stealth and very temporary, seeing that she only had it up for a few seconds.

Because she dropped it of course ^^ + stealth never seems complete from your own point of view.

It's clearly intended to make you "disappear from your opponents screen"