Originally posted by Deathstrike2

The way some people act about in game ads, I wonder how they're even able to watch television or drive down a main street in town.  They're just ads, and they don't bite. 

What I'd like to see is for the billboards and other in game ads (pop machines, etc.) to be destructible so we could destroy them.  After a few minutes, they could reappear.  Now that would be cool, and it would also catch the attention of the target audience. 

Anywho, more money = good for the game.

 

On a side note...     The ADS ARE COMING!!!  RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!! 

Baaaaa.

Go ahead, keep being a sheep. 

Go back to sleep.

Oyjord.

Originally posted by Kryogenic

 

It's not a question of being subjected to ads. It's being subjected to ads in a game with a monthly subscription fee.

 

They want to add "optional advertising", well then they need to make an optional payment plan to go with the adds.

Sure I'll turn on some ads and be spammed with Power Drink and McDonlads ads, but it's taking a slightly corrupt concept, like paying to play every month, and adding some extra smarmy super sauce to it.

There are some great articles on Gamespot and Gamespy with some industry insight as to how some professionals feel about the fact that with the increase of in-game advertizing, the prices of the games haven't gone down.

CoH is showing it's age and I'm willing to bet that they aren't going to add anything major to the game. This is a ploy to get some add revenue to fund the company. Mark my words, there won't be any major additions to the game. Sure they'll port over power sets that work for different ATs and maybe throw in one or two sets that have been getting developed for awhile, now, but don't be foolish... it's not gonna suddenly breath new life into an old game.

But as long as we have blind little fanbois out there that are more than willing to bend over and take one in the rear, companies will continue to do these kinds of things.

And as long as we have sunshines like you, the world will still be filled with things to make us chuckle.

Could be worse.

EA could have bought CoX instead.

I don't mind it so much, as it'll be done in a non-intrusive manner. Would be nice though that it tracks how long you have the option turned on. Maybe as an incentive have a couple of badges that you can earn for how ever much time you have it on. That way the player can get some immediate benefit while the extra ad income makes its way into the game.

Online games have a lifespan. They last as long as they're profitable for the parent company. If adding passive billboard ads make CoX profitable to NCSoft for a while longer, that's fine with me.

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Originally posted by Kryogenic

But as long as we have blind little fanbois out there that are more than willing to bend over and take one in the rear, companies will continue to do these kinds of things.

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Fanboys? Or people who like the game and can read enough to find out that it's optional? If you consider any person a fanboy for thinking this is okay, then anyone who pays a monthly fee for anything should be considered one as well. And if, to you, these ads are similar to bending over, you might also want to consider working out and taking off a few hundred pounds. Companies will do these kinds of things when they need to. City of X is not the most popular game out there and I would be against a game like Blizzard's doing it.

Originally posted by Harafnir

So... When you buy the CoH/CoV collection you cant try the free month that is included without paying for a gamecard first, or giving them full access to your credit card... And now they want full monthly fee for watching ads and commersials ingame. Pay to be be a marketing victim... Good work

I think thats enough junk for one company, thank you very much.

IT IS OPTIONAL – YOU CAN TURN THEM OFF ALL THE TIME AND NEVER EVER SEE THEM.

I really don't see many people saying ok to the advertising unless their going to get something in return.  I mean just so NCsoft can get more money to add content isn't going to be a good enough reason for most players.  If they gave a discound like making it $5 a month or $15 for 2 months or even better F2P servers with advertising then I can see that working.  Actually if they made servers that are F2P I know so many people hate ads in game that they would pay $15 a month just to not have the ads.  I don't think NCsoft sees the big picutre, maybe a few people wouldn't mind the ads, but I know more people would hate them.  I've read enough forums with people complaining about ads in games.  I guarentee you that if the put ads in games and let people opt-out, probably about 85% or more will opt-out.  I'm all for advertising in games, but I would even opt-out if I wasn't getting something for the ads. 

Originally posted by Kryogenic

 

It's not a question of being subjected to ads. It's being subjected to ads in a game with a monthly subscription fee.

 

Did anyone of you read the article, and about how they are optional and can be turned off?  All of them, off all the time, for good?  Did any of you read that?  Do you get it?  You just hit one check box and you never have to see them - EVER.

So no one is being subjected to any adds ever.

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So beyond all of this, what benefit does leaving optional in-game advertising “on” bring to the players? Why should you not opt-out? All ad revenue dollars go directly to the further development of the game, which means more great content than ever before!

Originally posted by Guintu

I really don't see many people saying ok to the advertising unless their going to get something in return.

I'll leave them on because I don't care.  Yes I would be pissed if I didn't have to option, but because I do have the option I'm not pissed so I will leave them on. 

@GreenChaos - No, they did not read it.  They're unable.  It should probably be put a bit simpler for them.

{quote} Could be worse.

EA could have bought CoX instead. {/quote}

NOOOOO Don't say the "Unmentionable" name!!! You'll jinx everything!!

I'm planning on keeping the ads on, why?

I like the game, and this is a way for me to further support it, without paying more for it.

Those billboards scattered around the city / the isles are perfect for this. Wether they say "Earth for humans" or "pizzahut, get pizza now!" doesn't really matter to me tbh.

Originally posted by Guintu

I really don't see many people saying ok to the advertising unless their going to get something in return.  I mean just so NCsoft can get more money to add content isn't going to be a good enough reason for most players.  If they gave a discound like making it $5 a month or $15 for 2 months or even better F2P servers with advertising then I can see that working.  Actually if they made servers that are F2P I know so many people hate ads in game that they would pay $15 a month just to not have the ads.  I don't think NCsoft sees the big picutre, maybe a few people wouldn't mind the ads, but I know more people would hate them.  I've read enough forums with people complaining about ads in games.  I guarentee you that if the put ads in games and let people opt-out, probably about 85% or more will opt-out.  I'm all for advertising in games, but I would even opt-out if I wasn't getting something for the ads. 

That being said, tho, i would be curious to see quarterly reports as to how much money this project brings in and what it's being utilized for... simply to ensure they keep their promises.

I see this move by NCSoft more of a "Choose to see the ads and we'll keep investing in the game and not changing the montly fee". The other side of it, for me, would be "Choose to not see the ads and, by the same monthly fee, we'll start charging you for the upcoming content updates".

I liked the in game fictional ads - they kept the immersion of it. But I don't think they'll reduce the monthly fee. So I guess I'll choose to see the commercial ads then.

Originally posted by Guintu

I really don't see many people saying ok to the advertising unless their going to get something in return.  I mean just so NCsoft can get more money to add content isn't going to be a good enough reason for most players.  If they gave a discound like making it $5 a month or $15 for 2 months or even better F2P servers with advertising then I can see that working.  Actually if they made servers that are F2P I know so many people hate ads in game that they would pay $15 a month just to not have the ads.  I don't think NCsoft sees the big picutre, maybe a few people wouldn't mind the ads, but I know more people would hate them.  I've read enough forums with people complaining about ads in games.  I guarentee you that if the put ads in games and let people opt-out, probably about 85% or more will opt-out.  I'm all for advertising in games, but I would even opt-out if I wasn't getting something for the ads. 

The entire purpose of the in-game ads are to allow for the team to expand.  So you are getting something in return. 

Hopefully you play the game to enjoy it.  You'd pay the same price with or without the ads.  The OPTION is there for you.  It's really that simple.  If you don't think it's fair, then don't allow it.  There.  Was that really all that difficult?  Nope.  Game on! 

I mean its likely one of the games biggest complaints, low frequency of updates or additional content

so its good that they are tring too move things along at a faster pace here

Originally posted by Unrealevil

@GreenChaos - No, they did not read it.  They're unable.  It should probably be put a bit simpler for them.

Yes I read the whole article and I do know that the advertising in optional.

It's the wording in the article that set me off. Did you read it?

It's an obvious corporate spin to lead people to believe that they are going to try to breath new life into a game as old as CoX is, and it's an even bigger spin to lead people to believe that the lion's share of that ad revenue is going to go the development of new content for the game.

I agree that the way they are implementing the in-game ads is alot better than the majority of other games with in-game advertising. It doesn't change or alter the current trend in commercialized gaming for the better either. Look at games like SKATE, nothing but product placement after product placement and the game cost exactly the same as every other game that came out at the same time. The other games were just as good if not, better than SKATE. If you've played it you know how much product placement is in it. The single player campaign is like one big commercial for a bunch of different brands of clothing and skateboarding accessories.

Those companies pay money to get their ads into games. When a game is saturated that much with commercial bullshit the game shouldn't cost the same as a game that isn't as saturated. If it does than shame on the people behind the decision to charge full price for commercial advertizing.

Why does this happen more and more often? Because people with no minds blindly become sheep and make this kind of practice more acceptable than it was before.

You people need to get out in the world some more and stop worshiping at the alter of corporate shills.

Originally posted by Feldron

I mean its likely one of the games biggest complaints, low frequency of updates or additional content

so its good that they are tring too move things along at a faster pace here

Champions Online, while thematically similar, will play differently.  I look forward to both.  :)

Did some of you miss the part that it was optional to have ads?? I could give a flying F_ _ _ !  Some of you like to bitch for the sake of bitching..