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Your argument is flawed because it can be argued wow actually offers more stimulation at a great rate. In fact i can prove it with numbers.

Originally posted by Va-le

 

Originally posted by Josher

 

Originally posted by Va-le

 

Originally posted by Josher

 

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Who says its good?  Certainly not me.  I think a more appropriate question is - what makes it so popular?  That's the big question.  Actually, I think I already know why.

 

10 Million people and every professional critic.  Actually they describe it as excellent or outstanding=)  Its popular because its better than good.  Quite simple actually.

 

 

Are we going to get in to a debate about what popularity represents? Nazism was popular, drug addiction is popular, the spice girls are popular, teenage pregnancy is popular.... WoW was and is a game aimed at the masses, it's that simple. It is aimed at your average teenager, it's not complex, it's not challenging and it's easy to get in to. Tick, tick, tick.

 

The Beatles and Elvis are popular too and a small minority of people think they suck as well.  So your point is what?  Loads of people enjoy WOW, vets and new players alike.  Got a problem with that...seek help.

My point is certain people are sheep/average joe's and certain people aren't. The latter require a little bit more stimulation than WoW offers.

 

For example, take vanguard. 1-50 equals for me about 3 months work. In wow i can get to fifty in a month and 70 in three. So in one game you have 50 levels and 3 months. The stimulation rate is 50/3. Now take the other game, 70 levels in 3 months. Stimulation rate is 70/3. 70/3 > 50/3. Do you see now how your logic is flawed mathmatically? Now argueing that vanguard offers more per level is just ignorant considering that crafting an item in vanguard takes about 4 minutes of clicking. This might be stimulation for you but for me stimulation comes in teh form of simple game mechanics leading to complex strategies, not complex game mechanics which act as a burden on gameplay and bottleneck the experience to be monotonous and the same for everyone.

Originally posted by mehhem

Its easy.

its obviously not easy enough for you...you stopped playing.

Originally posted by TeflonEddie

Originally posted by Tatum

People insist that WOW is the greatest MMO ever?  Come on, seriously?

Hard to argue with 10 million subscriptions I guess. WoW is, officially, the "greatest" western MMO ever. There are apparently some Asian MMO's that have over 15 million subscribers, but even discounting the Asian market, WoW's subs still stand at nearly 5 million.

Other games beat it on individual aspects, but as a finished product WoW has the kind of broad-ranging appeal that's cornered the western market so it's hard to maintain the idea that "it sucks" when you're aware that 5 million people in the US and EU alone are still paying to play it.

 

Well, I'm half way delirious from working on a project all day today, so last post of the night for me...

Anyway, I'd never try to argue that WOW sucks.  It's not my style of MMO, so I'm too bias to make that call.

However, I still think that the sub numbers are more a measure of WOW's mainstream appeal.  For instance:  say there was a new MMO with every single one of WOW's strong points, except for one...it's designed for hardcore MMO players.  Would it be popular.  Yes.  Would it have any where near the sub numbers of WOW?  Not a chance.

The arguement some one might throw out against this is, "yea, so that just proves that WOW is the type of MMO that most players want".  Not necessarily.  WOW brought in a ridiculous amount of MMO virgins.  Once WOW starts fading and all those once new MMO players start moving onto other MMOs, whos to say exactly what type of MMO they'll prefer?  Some may indeed jump into the most WOW-like MMO, while others may go for more of a sandbox MMO or decide they'd rather play more of a hardcore MMO.  No one really knows. 

Originally posted by Josher

 

Originally posted by Va-le

 

Originally posted by Josher

 

Originally posted by Zindaihas

Who says its good?  Certainly not me.  I think a more appropriate question is - what makes it so popular?  That's the big question.  Actually, I think I already know why.

 

10 Million people and every professional critic.  Actually they describe it as excellent or outstanding=)  Its popular because its better than good.  Quite simple actually.

 

 

Are we going to get in to a debate about what popularity represents? Nazism was popular, drug addiction is popular, the spice girls are popular, teenage pregnancy is popular.... WoW was and is a game aimed at the masses, it's that simple. It is aimed at your average teenager, it's not complex, it's not challenging and it's easy to get in to. Tick, tick, tick.

 

The Beatles and Elvis are popular too and a small minority of people think they suck as well.  So your point is what?  Loads of people enjoy WOW, vets and new players alike.  Got a problem with that...seek help.

I believe his view was that an appeal to popularity is a falicious argument. Which your point still doesn;t refute.

Originally posted by deadlydog5

just wondering because it has the most subscribers, ive never played it before so i wouldnt know

what makes WoW so good

http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/08/31/the_best_upcoming_mmorpg/ < pretty intresting articel, also showcasing upcoming mmorpg's, ........... still upcoming , tho the articel dated from aug.2006

 

Originally posted by Wow4Lifer

Your argument is flawed because it can be argued wow actually offers more stimulation at a great rate. In fact i can prove it with numbers.

Aye, Britney Spears has sold nerly 100 milion albums, so she must be awsome! Right?

Originally posted by Tatum

Every time I read one of these threads...

Lots of people like WOW?  Cool, no problem.

Lots of people list WOW as their favorite MMO?  Again, cool, no problem.

People insist that WOW is the greatest MMO ever?  Come on, seriously?  If I ever believed that for a second, I would have tried it out by now.  The only "great" thing I've heard about WOW is that combat is very smooth and sharp. 

How can you state there is only one "great" aspect to a game you have never even tried?

Originally posted by Seggallion

 

Originally posted by Wow4Lifer

Your argument is flawed because it can be argued wow actually offers more stimulation at a great rate. In fact i can prove it with numbers.

 

Aye, Britney Spears has sold nerly 100 milion albums, so she must be awsome! Right?

I'm sure some grandmother said the same thing about Elvis when he went crazy too. 

I'm sure some mother said the same thing about Michael Jackson when he went crazy too.

Musicians go crazy, what does that have to do with a video game?  Despite it being cool to pick on them for being popular and then ramp it up once they crack, it doesn't change how their music entertained the masses prior to their breakdowns does it?